CPcantmeasuresnow

Thanks for the explanation Rob, that makes sense. It's just another sign of the times and the horrible pattern that has controlled us for the past 7 weeks that this is my biggest concern.

I noticed this morning that our sub forum title is not in bold like all of the other sub forums. Is this a subliminal message that our area does not really belong in the NYC metro, as several members to the south have argued during the past month? 32.4° 0.0 inches of snow last night. The seasonal stays put at 19.5 inches.

I received 16 inches from that storm. Lost 4 pear trees that still had most of their leaves on them. Of course that was followed by one of the worst winters in recent memory, now rivaled by this one.

32.2° with light snow. 0.5 inches so far this evening, 0.2 inches last night bringing the total today to 0.7 inches and the seasonal to 19.5 Now we're rolling. I'm sure I'm showing my age but I really preferred The Stones, Mcartney, The Who, and Tom Petty halftime shows over the performers they've had the last several years. No complaints about the butt shaking though. Much better optical than Adam Levine stripping on stage last year.

I don't think I'd trust any of the small area airports for snowfall totals and averages like KMGJ. Poughkeepsie use to report snowfall totals many years ago but they were always a joke. Maybe others like Julian that live near Poughkeepsie noticed the same thing. Just like Central Park under the domain of the Zookeeper, Poughkeepsie under reported or not at all much of the time. Whatever KMGJ averages reported are, add 5 inches IMO unless they are somehow the exception to the rule. Plus if the 42.2 is a 1981-2010 average, I'm sure they'll increase in the calculation next January for 1991-2020.

Love the new name, maybe it will turn things around. At this point in time I'd try Voodoo if I thought it might help.

From 1998/99 through 2009/10 is not complete so i had to estimate in spots. I have everything from 2010/11 to present. I wish I had been keeping complete records in 1995/96, I know I went over 100 but not sure of the exact figure. Since 2010 I also measure every minor event (case in point last nights 0.2 inches, 0.5 from Jan 8 squall, 0.4 from Dec 18 squall, 0.8 from Jan 6 etc, etc) I've noticed many people ignore those type events in their totals and in the end they make a difference. What's your average up there Rob and how far back do your records go?

32.0° 0.2 inches from last nights storm. Brings the seasonal total to an even 19.0 inches. Still a solid two months for snow, but It will be tough getting to the seasonal average of 50-53 inches at this rate

I believe that's programmed in to automatically occur every three days. It keeps suckers like us looking even in patterns like this.

Was there any snow remnants anywhere along the higher elevations of 81 in Virginia?

And December started off so well. It seems like a lifetime ago.

33.6° light rain, a few wet snow flakes mixed in.

Optimist

You may have already posted it but I'd be curious where the Dec 22 through Jan 30 period is. I would think it has to be at least top 5 warmest?

Next time you travel that part of 81, and probably better to do in the warmer months, do yourself a favor and take the Blue Ridge Parkway for the 130 or so mile stretch in Virginia that it runs parallel to 81. It takes longer but the views are incredible. Lots of nice spots to stop and hike or just take in the views.

Yep, with an automated strike zone he probably goes down looking, but even if he did they weren't losing that series. No one was beating them in 98.

I was at the Tino GS vs Langston game too. I remember this huge guy about 5 rows in front of me that made me look like a midget, and I'm 6 2, 210, pulled his chair out of the ground and raised it over his head while he was cheering after the homer. I may have had a few that night, and I know those chairs were bolted in the ground, so it was either loose, or he was Superman, but still one of the more impressive feats of strength I've ever seen at a baseball game.And yes that may have been the loudest game I've ever attended. It felt like the upper deck might fall and crush us.

Getting a foot of snow the first two days of December and having snow cover pretty much solid until around the 20th (in the HV I know others didn't even get that) started this winter out with such high hopes. It's been nothing short of a disaster since Dec 22nd. Bluewave posted this earlier and if memory serves this is now the 4th warmest Dec 22 through January 29 period in history. It doesn't get much worse than that. WTS and with no prospects of a pattern change in the foreseeable future I for one am taking a break and will revisit and hope for some changes by the middle of the month. One note of hope, and I have posted this several times in the last couple of weeks, March has been the snowiest month in NYC in 4 of the past 5 seasons. Odder still March has been colder than February in two of the last three seasons. Don't be shocked if we repeat the same thing again this year. I'll take snow in any month, but I do prefer front loaded to back loaded winters, but again this year it's just not gonna happen.

Mariano on the mound and a fourth straight series, and fifth in six years were right there for the taking after incredible comebacks in games 4 & 5. Happening as it did right after 9/11 it just seemed like it was meant to be. Luis Gonzalez 120 foot single still haunts me to this day

And oddly enough one state over in Denver they have 0.0 inches of snow so far for the month of January. I'm not sure how the ski areas in Colorado are faring for the month.

It's time for JB to hang em up, he's several years past his prime. Granted he will be right again at some point with his cold and snowy tweets, but only for the same reason that a broken clock is correct twice a day.

I know people tend to look at the pictures the day before the blizzard when it was unseasonably mild and assume they were coming out of a mild winter, but the winter as a whole in 1887/88, temperature wise was brutal by our current standards, and snowfall was about average until March. By month, December 1887 averaged 33.4° with 9.0 inches of snow, January averaged 23.2° (about 16° below what our current January will be) with 11.0 inches of snow. February was somewhat of the head fake month for them, only 3.0 inches of snow but still an average temp of 29.2° for the month. March 1888 averaged 29.9° which is the only March in 150 years to average below 30° in NYC. And then there was the Blizzard, officially measured as 21.0 inches in Manhattan yet surrounding areas like Brooklyn measured 36 inches, New Haven 45 and Albany 48 inches. Uncle W has some great photos of Manhattan after the storm. When you look at those photos and when you consider there was no snow cover the day before, there is now way that was 21 inches in Manhattan. It was 30 minimum and probably closer to the 36 measured in Brooklyn. The tradition of under measuring the large storms in NYC began back then IMO.

Snowier yes, but not cold by any measure. The last 20 years the December through March Period has been on average 2.5 degrees warmer than the historical averages in NYC. I state facts I don't overreact, but if you say that again I'm going to my safe space.

It would be a continuation of recent trends. Four of the last 5 Marches in NYC have been the snowiest months of the season, and not just in the bad years. Odder still is two of the last three Marches have been colder than that seasons February. That rarely happens.

And further west Denver has had no measurable snow this January. A trace so far this month.