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What did you end up with in yesterday’s lake effect and what was the jackpot area and amount yesterday?

MJO812 who until this past month was snow88. Since the name change hasn’t worked did he delete his account in a last desperate attempt to change this F’n pattern? God bless him for always trying.

Agreed, my point was only that this one is historically bad so far and will probably end up a top 5 stinker snow wise and temp wise in NYC when all is said and done.

Well lets not act like winters like this are a common occurrence either because that's being disingenuous. Right now you're staring at the fourth least snowiest year ever in 151 years in NYC and most likely one of the top 5 warmest January-February combos in history. Those combos don't happen that often.

Boston at 15.1 on the season. I'm still ahead of them at 20.5. The line from Albany across to Mass/NH border on north are the only spots doing okay snow wise. Everyone way above normal temp wise.

Was looking at those last night, what a paradise. When I got out of college 30 odd years ago I had a nice job offer in Syracuse and I didn't take it. A chance at life in paradise and I turned it down, how less frustrating winters could have been.

You really do seem to be in a black hole for snow. Any idea why and how large an area does it cover?

If for entertainment only why even include Boston? Go with something along the lines of the February 25-26 2010 storm. I had 35 inches from that storm, Hunter mountain had close to 60 inches, NYC 20.9 inches and Boston had rain almost the entire storm along with most of New England including Vermont. Now that was a fantasy storm come to life.

Where you relocating? We have a lot of family in north Georgia, Alpharetta, Canton, Cumming and Jasper. Great area if you’re still looking. Isn’t a horrible season in the tug hill 150-200 inches? I feel terrible for them, thoughts and prayers.

When events can't even live up to the very low bar of less than an inch it speaks volumes.

My response to your map is in the same spirit as you drew the map. Just having fun.

In NYC for 4 of the last 5 seasons the snowiest month has been March. Add to that March has had a lower average monthly temperature two of the last three years than February (that's only happened 7 times in 151 years that March has been colder than February). This coming March does not have a very high bar to shoot for to keep both streaks going.

If you've had more than a trace of snow you've had more snow than the city of Atlanta has had this season. It was only their northern suburbs that had accumulations last week. I currently sit at 20.5 inches, 12 of it from the early December storm. A horrible winter especially with the mild temperatures added in.

NYC still needs 12.9 inches of snow by next December 31 to reach a 30 year average of 30 inches per season for the 1991-2020 period to be calculated next January. What seemed like a lock for them two years ago seems to be more and more unlikely to happen. With the way this winter is fading into oblivion without a whimper, and with the unreliability of November and recent Decembers, if I was a betting man I'd now bet against it happening. Here's the average snowfall per month at Central Park since January 1991 through January 2020: October........0.1 November....0.5 December....4.9 January.......8.7 February....10.5 March..........5.1 April.............0.4 Total.........30.3 WTS even if it doesn't snow anymore between now and next December 31st they will have a 29.6 inch average so we could always round up. Of course they're close enough now that one MECS could put them over the top, but those have been hard to come by in the past couple of years, and is certainly very unlikely in this current pattern.

It's getting difficult to even bother to look each morning. Why should I start out my day just affirming the obvious and getting depressed. This isn't going away.

If snow falls in the forest and there's no one there to measure it before it melts, did it really fall? The decision should have been an easy one. I hope you made the right one.

Of the 151 complete years recorded so far NYC has an average snowfall of 28.8 inches and a median of 27.1 Of those 151 seasons the breakdown is as follows: 69 seasons have had between 20-40 inches of snow or 46% of their winters. Maybe call that your normal NYC winter. 35 seasons over 40 inches or 23%, 38 between 10-19.9 inches or 25% 9 seasons below 10 inches or 6%. Summary, so far this winter in NYC ranks up there among the all time stinkers, and when you throw in the ridiculously high temperature anomaly so far just makes it worse.

They need to start stamping these with “For amusement purposes only” for the uninformed. Just one more example of the GFS incompetence after the upgrade as per Bluewaves post above. The bigger problem is it will be showing similar results 3-4 days before the rains begin.

In the 151 years of record keeping at Central Park, the average snow fall is 28.8 inches per season and the median is 27.1 inches so very little variation in the two numbers. I've never run the numbers for Boston and WDC but I would agree with your guess. I would think Bostons mean and median like NYC's are within a few inches of each other. In a place like Washington where the average snowfall is in the mid teens, a couple of 50 inch seasons will skew the average much more than a couple of 5 inch winters will.

As Expected the snow line continues north on the 12Z GFS. The 7 inch mark over southern Orange County which had been consistent for 4 straight runs is now down to 4 inches. As you stated it will move north towards Albany, as the mentally challenged GFS slowly catches on with the other models.

6Z GSF pretty much the same snowfall map for the HV 4 runs in a row. As you say it's pretty much on its own so most likely out to lunch.

The snowfall map about the same as 18Z. I don't believe it for a second though.

It's only 96 hours away, and of course on it's own right now but why can't I at least dream? Unfortunately even if this came to fruition as depicted by the 18Z GFS cut the snow totals a few inches at least as some of the frozen over the HV is freezing rain .

12Z GFS for Thursday. Something to watch for northern suburbs Thursday night, but personally I give it little credence atm.

Beautiful pictures, beautiful area. I stayed in North Conway and finally made it to the Mt. Washington summit this summer, incredible place. Stop in the Mt. Washington museum in North Conway if you get a chance and haven't been, it's a weather enthusiasts paradise. They still have stuff running this time of year that takes you up to 4,000 feet on Mt. Washington? If so I'll have to add that to the bucket list. I also got to the summit of Whiteface mountain near Lake Placid last September, another worthwhile trip. Leaves were at their peak in the valley and past peak above 3,000 feet, and pretty much leafless over 4,000 feet. On a clear day you can see presidential range from the peak.