40/70 Benchmark

The only redealming event that I had that season was a couple of days before Xmas....there was an explosive storm on 12/23/97 that produced insane rates and dropped 1-2' around the area. Ayer, MA has 8" in one hour.

I had about normal snowfall in 82-83, in large part thanks to the Megalopolis system.

Yea, 45.1 here, too.

I was speaking of that winter in a NE US context, but it makes sense that it wasn't as bad in the GL region....that set up isn't as hostile there.

Yes, the winter overall sucked. You are in the mid atl, I assume?

Yes, but it was more widespread in that system because it was occluded, so there was just narrow area near the coast that got creamed under the low level deformation.

I don't think strong El Ninos are the catalyst for global warming, rather I just think global warming manifests most prominetly during high-end warm ENSO events.

PD II was just bad luck...I was in a subsidence area of around a foot.

It will never end well in the NE US for fans of winter when you have death-star vortex INVO Alaska and the Bering Sea...never has, never will...I don't care which climate era you are in.

Eh....the Xmas event occured later in the Xmas day and was heavily tained with IP for me, and I got crewed in PD II. That winter was good, but left a lot on the table.

This would have been a slightly cooler shitty winter in 1898-1899...people get carried away with the CC crap. It was a bad pattern, regardless of the warming climate. +WPO/+EPO/+AO+NAO/-PNA/-PDO and a strong modoki La Nina, but sure...lets focus on CC. That season was an instruction manual on how to avert winter in the NE US.

It was a blowtoch then....the winter sucked.

That's a general 3/4" to an inch or rainfall....I mean, what has happened to us when that isn't considered awful on a Saturday

I agree with all of this.

February 1983 Megalopolis event was very good for my area (about 18"), but January 2016 was a fringe job....I got like 2" of pixie dust. Too bad the southeast ridging wasn't as strong in this "new climate" as it was back in 1983 ; )

For my current location, you can probably exchange 1995-1996 for 2000-2001...my area now did much worse in the Jan 7, 1996 blizzard and much better in the March 5, 2001 event than my former locale.

Yea, I'm going to bet against a -NAO at this juncture, but will see once I do my polar domain research and you get your index calculation in.

My area was a local min....the Worcester hills and Boston area down to the south short did much better. i was only likw 10-15" above average...pretty blah. Similar to 2013-2014 in that regard....those are my two most overrated winters...they both lack signature events.

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NNE did fine....it's SNE that keeps getting the train run on it by mother nature.

Yea, I think the real flip is near the turn of the decade.

I think everyone agrees with that...my contention is more that we are just in a shitty multidecdal pattern that its likely enhanced by CC.

I think it's prudent to be skeptical, but I am willing to entertain it.....I just think its folly to speak in absolutes and act as if its a forgone conclusion.

It's also much easier to use any "forecast and analysis technique" with great success when you only go out three weeks into the future...start issuing an actual seasonal effort during the fall. I don't mean to be contentious or undermine your efforts, but if you are so confident in your analysis techniques and vision of where the globe is headed, then take it to the next level and do seasonals.

I don't think you are conceptualizing analogs correctly if you are waiting for one to "verify"....it's not about finding a replica season, it's about determining which analog seasons have value and what element of each analog season offers said value. I thought the 2013-2014 (favorable east Pacific with roughing over NE USA) analog held a great deal of value last season....as did the 1999-2000 (PNA interludes during cool ENSO and too little too late SSW) analog. 1972-1973 (Pacific cold phase competing with potent warm ENSO) was a very telling analog for the prior season. 2008-2009 was an exemplary ENSO analog that I incorporated to successfully diagnose the late-blooming nature of the modest cool ENSO episode, which ultimately transitioned from east-based into a Modoki during a cooler NE us winter. The reason that last season was warmer than 2013-2014 is due to a combination of a vastly different West Pacific and background warming. I thinking understanding how to use analogs is of increasingly of paramount importance amid a fairly rapidly changing climate. Its crucial when using analogs to understand that we are operating in a warmer base state, agreed.