Well, that's the thing....you go on so many snarky diatribes regarding how a viable winter outlook can be produced by copy and pasting the past 10 or so years, that it's tough to gauge where exactly you stand. Seriously, I would need to see a bit more than just this year.....my stance is if we make into the next decade in this same winter rut, then it's time to operate under the assumption that we've reached a tipping point, so to speak.