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Mid 30s sfc temps should preclude much if any accumulation regardless of p-type.

Yeah and so far all the JV models agree so one should expect the euro to follow suit. GFS AI actually has a better event but also a step backwards.

Still just below 32 at 11:15, 31.8

pattern doesn't support any storms in the northern stream to reach us still producing much- flow is too fast - in and out cold shots - have to wait till later in the month for the SOI to go further into negative territory and the southern stream gets more involved - then we have to rely on that 2nd advertised Strat warming event ..........

Each run getting less and less but still so much time I’m not really going to stress it. The system that hit virgins yesterday was there then it wasn’t then it came back again so just will wait and see.

MU on the potential weekend clippers: The numerical computer models are having a tough time figuring out the progression & evolution of the two potential clipper-type systems & subsequent "light snow" events between Friday-Sunday. Intensity, timing & tracks are changing drastically from run-to-run, but one thing's certain: both will be small & relatively weak systems & produce narrow swaths of accumulating snow. There's no guarantee either will take the right track for snow in northern MD or southern PA, but the Sat night-Sun systems provides the better chance.

I'm sure it will get going in earnest in advance of the next storm, though

We actually have 1980s low temps too this time.

Sunday is looking brutal. GFS isn't as cold.

Tomorrow. Will 100% be nowcasting

For early December I'll keep nickel and diming if we have to. Of course big event is better but these are better than pacific puke and shut the blinds til january.

Its just like the 80s

It's still there but it gets ground up by low heights to our northeast. I actually thought it might improve at first because it was lsightly better out west....but the vortex to our northeast keeps the flow too flat to allow the WAA to get going.

i haven't measured snow since boxing day

Just check the ens. before jumping.

all kind of evens out between the two light events. Beggars can't be choosers but I'd like more lol

Score one for the euro as gfs has come a bit north. Riding the line here in north macomb. It annoys me how its like 20 degrees for days then a legit system comes and we battling precip issues.

Last night actually got colder than guidance in a lot of locations. Longer term, there is probably some merit to your post.

No snow or only flurries on 12z GFS .

We get something Sunday, but not too much much to spoil us.

Gfs lost any semblance of an event over the weekend.

You get your Dusting-2" on Sunday! lol

Gfs doesn’t even have a storm. See ya

I do like the cold temps because it allows for snowmaking at my local ski hill. I would love for everyone to get snow, but that seems rare lately.