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The Panthers are still playing meaningful football in December, so I’ve got hope that cold can come back

I can promise you about 99% of the population in New England would say the same thing. So 99% of the population just should up and move to Florida

Are you kidding…move to Florida for god sakes. You had your warm up on Friday for 12 hrs.

This is one of the most extreme December patterns that we have experienced in terms of temperature and precipitation volatility across the CONUS with California being a prime example.

EPS getting juicy for us. We talked about this overrunning setup for 2 weeks. Its here and who scores is still up in the air. Good luck to all.

Still liking that post Christmas period but I sure hope we get a bit of a mild up moving into January or get an early spring in March. This cold/wind is horrible.

I've stuck with a 1-3" or 2-4" for now, But yeah, I think 3" is the number right now.

Absolutely

Too soon and things might move around some more. Seems like a general 2-4” up our way. 3 is a win. The later part of the week is interesting right into next week

Wow, the dew point has just plummeted this afternoon. It’s 53 here but the dew point is 5. I noticed at Tri it was 2 during the last observation. Talk about dry!

The 12z gfs rolls the trough up top with a backdoor front but amplifies a ridge out west. Yes this coming week is warm but the pattern does jumble up a bit after that. Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

And that translates into giving up on the rest of the winter...why?

The gfs looks better today. There's some decent cold shots. The euro on the other hand lol. Are those +50 degree departures in the Midwest for the next 10 days at least? What an impressive heatwave. Someone at our latitude is definitely going to see 70's if not 80's lol. F-it. I'm moving on and planning some extended hikes in the local mountains.

Yessir!

GYX is not biting on that yet, These things are finicky.

An impressive trough then yes warm-up but then possibly more cold but honestly past day 5 it's a crapshoot. Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk

Made it to 49° here with the MOS and raw guidance forecast for low 40s. Noticed the MOS from several days ago was around 50° but it shifted colder. Models often underestimate highs with sunny and windy downslope flow and the cold air lagging frontal passage.

No it actually wouldn’t verbatim.

glad you are so confident - thats why I said said changes still possible- could end up being nothing too still have over 40 hours to go......

Usually if the pattern is bad in the south it's bad for us too. Same goes for Philadelphia.

this is a coating to 2 inches tops in my opinion everywhere unless you go to northwest Ct and Southwest Mass where they can get up to 5 inches

last storm CP NYC got 2.9 and I am southwest of them in Extreme northern Middlesex County NJ and I got somewhere between 5 and 6 inches -- to be safe I am staying with 1 -4 for my area as of now...........changes still possible before showtime.......

JI cancels on October 21st

Jan 15 to Feb 15 honestly looks like a decent period IMO