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Trying to figure out why the Euro ended up with that surface translation even with more west ticks at 500: Looks like we just end up more positively tilted (you can see the difference below at hr 93) and there is slightly worse spacing with the kicker out west. This one is going to drive us crazy with small shifts like that making the difference in the end.

What?

“Euro is East!” - fish, probably

Please ignore the prepubescents.

I didn’t look at any h5 to say one way or another, just if something woulda got picked up. Seems like the biggest factor as I said in another comment is basing this off the tilt of the closed UL. Even if this originates a bit west of the prior runs, the real improvement needs to come in the orientation of things with that.

Interesting

GFS: Good, waiting for north trend NAM: Good Canadian: looked good before weird surface modeling Euro OP: West Euro AIFS: West Icon: West UKL West

We need the 12 year olds out of here is what it means.

Looking good

Good game What gamers say when a game is over or they consider it over

Sorry Randy. Looking at h5 it did looked better—you were right in that regard. Hope you can forgive me for that unmerited criticism.

Good game

The tilt is arguably more important than location, especially with the origin of this.

12z while you are eating lunch. That's how life goes. Ruin your meal. Lol

Probably. I compare h5 first to try to see where things are going. After that, the sfc didn't correspond in later panels. Can't help that, but yeah maybe a met would have seen it coming

What does this mean?

Nor is op euro. Gfs at 0Z seems alone. But it’s pretty early still so we stay the course. I accidentally booked my car at RSW for Monday evening vs our scheduled arrival Sunday. I told my wife it’s easier to leave it be until we’re sure we’re getting out Sunday.

The ull is in the same place by it was neutral on 18z and so positive on 00z

Remember guys, Europe has never won a Super Bowl

12z with fresh data

Not a criticism, genuine question. Would a met reading and doing pbp have been able to see things there and say “well h5 is displaced west of 18z kinda nicely now however XXX happens negating those positive developments”

The AI was right on the better runs from tonight with the 500mb vort it looked like but qpf was down slightly for us. Euro is winding up well west of prior runs.

Carbon copy of 18z

When does the GFS fold? 6z or 12z?

Moved more West thus far