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8 hours ago, vortex95 said:

Nothing wrong or invalid in saying that.  Mainstream narratives vary all the time, what is "in" and "out" changes, including in the sciences. 

Narratives for science issues are often dictated by non-science-based factors, no?   Recency bias is a big one -- what is occurring now or in the recent past, is how it is and will be going forward (and the negative bias is huge).  The more one looks at logical fallacies and cognitive biases, and how they influence us all and are used manipulate the population, one see things for what they really are.

Also, science evolves.  What is said or known now is going to change over time at various levels.  There is societal arrogance that exists that we know best in the here and now and everything is figured out b/c things have come so far.  That's not what history has shown.  There is still a lot we do not know.

I guess my question for you is who even has climate change as the preferred narrative anymore? The White House thinks it’s a hoax, all of “mainstream media” have had their owners replaced with people who are at the bare minimum sympathetic to climate denialism, and in general the political zeitgeist has moved on. If anything, the current political climate has denialism as the ideology it would push. Of course, I agree that there are social media accounts trying to hype up all of us dying but they are doing that for their own fame and any commentary on climate change is secondary to their own profit. 

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10 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

I guess my question for you is who even has climate change as the preferred narrative anymore? The White House thinks it’s a hoax, all of “mainstream media” have had their owners replaced with people who are at the bare minimum sympathetic to climate denialism, and in general the political zeitgeist has moved on. If anything, the current political climate has denialism as the ideology it would push. Of course, I agree that there are social media accounts trying to hype up all of us dying but they are doing that for their own fame and any commentary on climate change is secondary to their own profit. 

Thanks for the feedback/input.

Climate hype is still rife on social media, and if you look at a lot of MSM news and wx segments, they are still pushing the gloom and doom narrative often.  Also, even w/ politics shifted this country, look at a lot of rest of the world and organizations like the UN and WEF.  The end of the word narrative from AGW is alive and well still.

And going one step further, this is case of "bad news sells," which is apolitical, so that's what drives it a lot.  The boogie man changes over time, but its is always there out to get us.  In the 70s, it was pollution in general and the ice age coming, in the 80s, it was the ozone layer and acid rain, and by the 90s it switched to climate change and has not looked back.

The deniliasm part is merely subset of any problem that exists and is hype or over-promoted.  Par for the course.

I don't like denialism as a term, as much as I don't like blindly embracing a narrative or ideology.  That's a false dichotomy and suggests a lack of critical thinking.  As w/ many things, the truth often lies in between.  Not exactly 50-50 w/ every issue either, and things are often a lot more complex than they seem w/ no easy answers as well.

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