Stovepipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew70 said: That BAM fellow nailed this. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Matthew70 said: That BAM fellow nailed this. A little more amping and OH isn't going to have to worry about snow on the Euro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Jax you called it severe wx!!! We might just have it here Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago And that was only a half sarcastic joke about BAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TellicoWx said: And that was only a half sarcastic joke about BAM Well it was fun to dream for a couple days. Back to reality. Schools in kiddos next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TellicoWx Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Should have stuck to the old rule of thumb. Find the 850 LP and skip until a system shows where you are on the NW quadrant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Brutal! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Well I gotta say. I’m ready for spring. I freaking hate the heartbreak winter always brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Stovepipe said: Brutal! You should put the BAM fellow as the monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Matthew70 said: You should put the BAM fellow as the monster 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Flash* Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Winter Storm Watches posted for west and middle… 727 FXUS64 KOHX 210450 AFDOHX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Nashville TN 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .KEY MESSAGES... Updated at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 - High confidence a major winter storm will bring travel impacts this weekend. Ice may cause some power outages, mainly south of I-40. Stay tuned for the latest. - Cold temperatures are expected to remain through early next week which will prolong impacts. - Scattered showers expected tomorrow/tomorrow night with precipitation remaining as rain. .SHORT TERM... (Tonight through Thursday Night) Issued at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 Wednesday will begin with thickening clouds and chilly temperatures, although not nearly as chilly as we experienced Tuesday morning. Temps will warm pretty quickly as southwest wind kick in with some gusts over 25 mph. A weak system will move in with a good chance for light rain showers Wednesday afternoon and evening. This system will bring all-liquid with no wintry precip concerns. Behind Wednesday's system, high pressure will move in for Thursday with a pretty nice day. Skies will be mainly sunny with near normal temperatures. This will be a good day to complete your preparations for this weekend's wintry conditions. Things will change Friday as an Arctic cold front drops into the area, setting the stage for our well-advertised winter storm. && .LONG TERM... (Friday through next Wednesday) Issued at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 Here is a review of the scenario: an upper level trough will be situated off the southern coast of California on Friday. Ahead of the trough, southwesterly flow will send anomalously high moisture through the southern plains and into the southeast. This will override the cold air that settles into our area on Friday. In addition, some of that energy is expected to eject out of the Baja region eastward on Saturday. The amount of energy coming out of the southwest and amount of phasing between the northern and southern streams will impact the surface system and amount of warmadvection up into Middle Tennessee. The strength of the cold air mass coming from the north will also affect the moisture and temperature profiles. So, a lot going on here and still a lot of very possible outcomes. The latest NBM data looks generally similar to yesterday's in terms of 3/6/9 inch snow probabilities and 0.25" ice potential. This means a high-end, mainly snow event along and north of I-40. For areas south of I-40, still a significant snow accumulation potential but more of a wintry mix with potential for sleet and freezing rain. The NBM trends will need to be watched as we now have a couple of models showing a stronger warm nose building up from the south. The 18Z ECMWF and 00Z NAM are showing the 850 freezing line pushing up near I-40 on Saturday. We still think an all or mostly snow event is unfolding for areas along and north of I-40. but south of I-40 we may need to message increasing concerns for ice. If it warms enough for appreciable freezing rain, then glaze on trees and power lines will increase the risk for power outages. If the warmth is just enough for sleet, that will not impact trees and power as much, but it will make a travel mess while substantially limiting snow totals. All of this said, based on probabilities for significant winter wx amounts and impacts, we will likely hoist a Winter Storm Watch later tonight or Wednesday morning after collaboration with WPC and our neighboring offices. Our key messages are: high confidence in winter weather with potentially major travel impacts this weekend. Go ahead and make preparations and plan to stay home unless you must travel. We are growing more concerned about ice with possible power outages for areas south of I-40. South of I-40 is where the biggest questions exist. Precip type will determine how much freezing rain, sleet, and/or snow falls. Whatever falls is likely to stick around and impact travel for several days with cold air locked in place. Temperatures for some areas will stay below freezing through midweek. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurbus Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Woke up in the middle of the night to that 00z disaster. Feels like we are the Falcons and was just up 28-3 at halftime in the Super Bowl...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weatheriscool Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, *Flash* said: Winter Storm Watches posted for west and middle… 727 FXUS64 KOHX 210450 AFDOHX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Nashville TN 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 ...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM... .KEY MESSAGES... Updated at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 - High confidence a major winter storm will bring travel impacts this weekend. Ice may cause some power outages, mainly south of I-40. Stay tuned for the latest. - Cold temperatures are expected to remain through early next week which will prolong impacts. - Scattered showers expected tomorrow/tomorrow night with precipitation remaining as rain. .SHORT TERM... (Tonight through Thursday Night) Issued at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 Wednesday will begin with thickening clouds and chilly temperatures, although not nearly as chilly as we experienced Tuesday morning. Temps will warm pretty quickly as southwest wind kick in with some gusts over 25 mph. A weak system will move in with a good chance for light rain showers Wednesday afternoon and evening. This system will bring all-liquid with no wintry precip concerns. Behind Wednesday's system, high pressure will move in for Thursday with a pretty nice day. Skies will be mainly sunny with near normal temperatures. This will be a good day to complete your preparations for this weekend's wintry conditions. Things will change Friday as an Arctic cold front drops into the area, setting the stage for our well-advertised winter storm. && .LONG TERM... (Friday through next Wednesday) Issued at 1050 PM CST Tue Jan 20 2026 Here is a review of the scenario: an upper level trough will be situated off the southern coast of California on Friday. Ahead of the trough, southwesterly flow will send anomalously high moisture through the southern plains and into the southeast. This will override the cold air that settles into our area on Friday. In addition, some of that energy is expected to eject out of the Baja region eastward on Saturday. The amount of energy coming out of the southwest and amount of phasing between the northern and southern streams will impact the surface system and amount of warmadvection up into Middle Tennessee. The strength of the cold air mass coming from the north will also affect the moisture and temperature profiles. So, a lot going on here and still a lot of very possible outcomes. The latest NBM data looks generally similar to yesterday's in terms of 3/6/9 inch snow probabilities and 0.25" ice potential. This means a high-end, mainly snow event along and north of I-40. For areas south of I-40, still a significant snow accumulation potential but more of a wintry mix with potential for sleet and freezing rain. The NBM trends will need to be watched as we now have a couple of models showing a stronger warm nose building up from the south. The 18Z ECMWF and 00Z NAM are showing the 850 freezing line pushing up near I-40 on Saturday. We still think an all or mostly snow event is unfolding for areas along and north of I-40. but south of I-40 we may need to message increasing concerns for ice. If it warms enough for appreciable freezing rain, then glaze on trees and power lines will increase the risk for power outages. If the warmth is just enough for sleet, that will not impact trees and power as much, but it will make a travel mess while substantially limiting snow totals. All of this said, based on probabilities for significant winter wx amounts and impacts, we will likely hoist a Winter Storm Watch later tonight or Wednesday morning after collaboration with WPC and our neighboring offices. Our key messages are: high confidence in winter weather with potentially major travel impacts this weekend. Go ahead and make preparations and plan to stay home unless you must travel. We are growing more concerned about ice with possible power outages for areas south of I-40. South of I-40 is where the biggest questions exist. Precip type will determine how much freezing rain, sleet, and/or snow falls. Whatever falls is likely to stick around and impact travel for several days with cold air locked in place. Temperatures for some areas will stay below freezing through midweek. I am up to 17.5 for Saturday, 2.2 for Sunday on wunderground, a little more on weather channel app. Glad they pulled trigger helps people prepare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillbilly Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago To put this into perspective, the ECMWF trend north the last four runs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurbus Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6z GFS throws us a bone. Still don't trust it but it gives most of us a good thump of snow before switching to a mixed bag of precip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago On the positive side we have 36 more hours for this to tick one way or another so it does have room to come back. The Baja energy has been sampled some but the northern piece which is where the trend has happened hasn't been touched yet and won't be for a while. But don't hold your breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker1027 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Nasty Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago After reading discussions from the pros in Morristown at the NWS, I'm going old school and just going to wait and see what happens. They even say they don't know. In the Hamilton County detailed forecast they are saying sleet, freezing rain, and heavy snow accumulations Saturday and Saturday night. They said models are changing so much they have no way of determining where the snow line will shift. They really don't know. They are keeping temps below 32° for the high Saturday and staying below freezing late Friday night through Sunday afternoon. We might still get it. Remember the old days! Just wait and see what happens. I honestly think we have wayyyy too many different models. They need to just go old school and actually read the maps and make manual adjustments based on climatology and micro-climates. A lot of the new mets are relying on a computer models to tell us what will happen instead of putting in the work to figure out small details. Time will tell.Sorry for the long post. Not a rant, just trying to see things from the eyes of the pros.Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, fountainguy97 said: On the positive side we have 36 more hours for this to tick one way or another so it does have room to come back. The Baja energy has been sampled some but the northern piece which is where the trend has happened hasn't been touched yet and won't be for a while. But don't hold your breath. Case in point. The 06z Uk just ticked the northern wave 50 miles further east (more separation). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scottie16 Posted 35 minutes ago Share Posted 35 minutes ago EPS looks to be trending south.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted 34 minutes ago Share Posted 34 minutes ago Uk shift at 06z. Not insignificant. Euro to follow? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie16 Posted 16 minutes ago Share Posted 16 minutes ago Uk shift at 06z. Not insignificant. Euro to follow?LEEEEEETS RIDE. In all seriousness, I think we see the Euro trend back south this run.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted 14 minutes ago Share Posted 14 minutes ago Euro may be a tick tick better for us. Maybe. It's definitely not worse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted 13 minutes ago Share Posted 13 minutes ago Saw someone on southernwx mention the WPC gives us some hope. So how confident are we in this trend, and will it continue or revert back to earlier runs, is the big question. Given the nearly unanimous trend in this direction, and at least a couple model runs in a row showing such a trend, it does seem like this shift has some merit. However, overall run to run consistency has shown pretty large swings with the exact handling of both the southern and northern stream energy. Suspect that the exact details of these features is far from settled upon...especially the northern stream energy which is currently strung out across much of western Canada into the arctic. Thus tend to think that the unanimous model trend could be a slight mirage and suggests more confidence in a solution than there actually is at this point. Either way, it should be stressed that in just about every outcome we get a widespread and major winter storm with many areas getting significant impacts regardless of these exact details. These details are, however, important for exactly where the maximum snow and ice totals occur. The current WPC QPF and temperatures were derived before much of this 00z guidance was available, and thus is a bit south of the new consensus. As described above, no guarantee we dont see a shift back south in later models...but assuming some persistence in the 06z/12z models then the WPC update today would likely shift north to at least some extent. *Have a weather model emotional gambling problem? Call 1-800-HATE-ME1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted 10 minutes ago Share Posted 10 minutes ago IMO there are definitely some differences with the shortwaves between 0z and 6z: Will it lead to a different result? We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainguy97 Posted 9 minutes ago Share Posted 9 minutes ago Definite tick for more separation. A tick in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewman22001 Posted 9 minutes ago Share Posted 9 minutes ago Saw someone on southernwx mention the WPC gives us some hope. So how confident are we in this trend, and will it continue or revert back to earlier runs, is the big question. Given the nearly unanimous trend in this direction, and at least a couple model runs in a row showing such a trend, it does seem like this shift has some merit. However, overall run to run consistency has shown pretty large swings with the exact handling of both the southern and northern stream energy. Suspect that the exact details of these features is far from settled upon...especially the northern stream energy which is currently strung out across much of western Canada into the arctic. Thus tend to think that the unanimous model trend could be a slight mirage and suggests more confidence in a solution than there actually is at this point. Either way, it should be stressed that in just about every outcome we get a widespread and major winter storm with many areas getting significant impacts regardless of these exact details. These details are, however, important for exactly where the maximum snow and ice totals occur. The current WPC QPF and temperatures were derived before much of this 00z guidance was available, and thus is a bit south of the new consensus. As described above, no guarantee we dont see a shift back south in later models...but assuming some persistence in the 06z/12z models then the WPC update today would likely shift north to at least some extent. *Have a weather model emotional gambling problem? Call 1-800-HATE-ME1This system has aged me . It’s certainly been fun to track and been more than emotionally draining . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tucker1027 Posted 9 minutes ago Share Posted 9 minutes ago Chattanooga MET this morning saying they buy the northern trend, but don’t buy the temp profiles on the euro yet. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holston_River_Rambler Posted 1 minute ago Share Posted 1 minute ago Here are your run to run changes at 500mb: There is more separation:, but the northern shortwave still manages to scoop the Baja energy out and semi phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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