Sundog Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: Incidentally, there's a major push in NYC and other large urban cities like Chicago, to greenify the city. Because UHI has major health implications too. The pledge is to make the city at least 30% green by 2030 and remove a lot of the concrete pollution where people live. We're also seeing it with the push for rooftop gardens, etc. So maybe greening the city will help control UHI and its health implications on people (while also cleaning the air, as more greenery means less air pollution and lower asthma rates too.) Haha good luck with that. I requested a few street trees on the parks department website 4 years ago and I've gotten nothing. This is on a form specifically made to request street trees in specific locations, I wasn't writing an email to the parks department asking for a free tree or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sundog said: Haha good luck with that. I requested a few street trees on the parks department website 4 years ago and I've gotten nothing. This is on a form specifically made to request street trees in specific locations, I wasn't writing an email to the parks department asking for a free tree or something. the parks department sucks, I read that they are replacing playground grass fields with astroturf, which causes more heat and more injuries.... cheap goons (they dont want to pay for upkeep, watering, mowing, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: the parks department sucks, I read that they are replacing playground grass fields with astroturf, which causes more heat and more injuries.... cheap goons (they dont want to pay for upkeep, watering, mowing, etc). They do it to keep geese away too. They did it to every field in our town. I hate it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Expanded lists of June record high maximum, minimum, and mean temperatures for the New York City area are below: Meanwhile, a number of record high monthly minimum temperatures set in the Plains from stations with threaded records extending into the 1800s. No doubt a lot more out there. These are only the ones I checked. I didn't look at any shorter POR sites. This ridge definitely seems to be getting its act together. High temperatures reached at least as high as 108F (Saint Francis, KS) yesterday. Not quite up to 2012 levels out there, but certainly a little more than the "it's just summer" narrative would seem to imply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Incidentally, there's a major push in NYC and other large urban cities like Chicago, to greenify the city. Because UHI has major health implications too. The pledge is to make the city at least 30% green by 2030 and remove a lot of the concrete pollution where people live. We're also seeing it with the push for rooftop gardens, urban farming, community gardens, etc. So maybe greening the city will help control UHI and its health implications on people (while also cleaning the air, as more greenery means less air pollution and lower asthma rates too.) and yet in the "suburbs", they continue to fill in the spaces between the spaces... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Dark Star said: and yet in the "suburbs", they continue to fill in the spaces between the spaces... The same people that are super pro environment also want to fill every last gap of real estate with housing haha. NYC's UHI has been very pronounced for at least 100 years though, NYC had 8 million people 100 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 83 / 60 another gorgeous sunny day, especially for weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago What is happening on the 12z NAM it has east winds and 80s for NYC Monday afternoon hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Monday 2PM on 12z NAM: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterdonWxguy86 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Sundog said: Monday 2PM on 12z NAM: In my opinion I would toss this. There is really nothing that supports a strong sea breeze. You can make the case along just the immediate coast. Like I said just my take 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago As of 10am Isp 82 Frg 80 Fox 81 Jfk 82 Ewr 82 Teb 81 Smq 81 Lga 79 (ne wind) Jones fricken Beach 81 Mtp 79 NYC 78.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, HunterdonWxguy86 said: In my opinion I would toss this. There is really nothing that supports a strong sea breeze. You can make the case along just the immediate coast. Like I said just my take Could easily be wrong but the 6z ICON, UKMET AND Euro AI all have a ocean wind component for Monday now. The UKMET especially changed because it was an inferno beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, Sundog said: The same people that are super pro environment also want to fill every last gap of real estate with housing haha. NYC's UHI has been very pronounced for at least 100 years though, NYC had 8 million people 100 years ago. there are so many issues with it that go far beyond temperature, like higher rates of asthma and cancer (and light pollution causes cancer too.) not to mention that high rates of processed food consumption lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc. So urban farming has multiple benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Rjay said: As of 10am Isp 82 Frg 80 Fox 81 Jfk 82 Ewr 82 Teb 81 Smq 81 Lga 79 (ne wind) Jones fricken Beach 81 Mtp 79 NYC 78.... we're a lot hotter than 82 here, I hit 87 here about 10 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, HunterdonWxguy86 said: In my opinion I would toss this. There is really nothing that supports a strong sea breeze. You can make the case along just the immediate coast. Like I said just my take yes and immediate coast means the beach, not where I live which is 2 miles north of the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said: Meanwhile, a number of record high monthly minimum temperatures set in the Plains from stations with threaded records extending into the 1800s. No doubt a lot more out there. These are only the ones I checked. I didn't look at any shorter POR sites. This ridge definitely seems to be getting its act together. High temperatures reached at least as high as 108F (Saint Francis, KS) yesterday. Not quite up to 2012 levels out there, but certainly a little more than the "it's just summer" narrative would seem to imply. the yucky corn and soy fields out there have raised the dew points considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: we're a lot hotter than 82 here, I hit 87 here about 10 minutes ago As of 10am lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, steve392 said: They do it to keep geese away too. They did it to every field in our town. I hate it. I think the geese would stay away if people didn't litter so much (same goes for rats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Rjay said: As of 10am lol yesterday and today are ideal, I'm trying to prep myself for the upcoming heat, although it's fun seeing the temp hit 100, it's really something you have to prep your body for, especially when it lasts multiple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: As of 10am lol now 88 here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Rjay said: As of 10am Isp 82 Frg 80 Fox 81 Jfk 82 Ewr 82 Teb 81 Smq 81 Lga 79 (ne wind) Jones fricken Beach 81 Mtp 79 NYC 78.... Alot of my friends are headed to the city today to escape the heat. They were thinking about the beach but decided to go to midtown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: Alot of my friends are headed to the city today to escape the heat. They were thinking about the beach but decided to go to midtown Better today than tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Wow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Wow The RGEM, which had the medium grays (mid 100s) running into Suffolk County on the 6z run on Tuesday 5PM now has this at 12z: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 0z ICON had near 100 and NWerly winds for NYC Monday and now the 12z run has 85 degrees with easterly winds hahaha We take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Sundog said: The RGEM, which had the medium grays (mid 100s) running into Suffolk County on the 6z run on Tuesday 5PM now has this at 12z: None of these models have a good history with modeling a sea breeze front, this is something you have to wait until the day of the event to have a handle on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Sundog said: 0z ICON had near 100 and NWerly winds for NYC Monday and now the 12z run has 85 degrees with easterly winds hahaha We take These radical shifts are a sign of inaccuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Sundog said: The RGEM, which had the medium grays (mid 100s) running into Suffolk County on the 6z run on Tuesday 5PM now has this at 12z: Excellent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: None of these models have a good history with modeling a sea breeze front, this is something you have to wait until the day of the event to have a handle on it. That may be true but now pretty much all the models have turned the winds from the ocean instead of from the NW. Bottom line if that wind direction is anywhere close to true we're not getting to 104 on Monday like the Euro had yesterday or the day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: These radical shifts are a sign of inaccuracy. Technically the 6z run was the halfway point between the 0z and 12z changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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