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June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike


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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Incidentally, there's a major push in NYC and other large urban cities like Chicago, to greenify the city.  Because UHI has major health implications too.  The pledge is to make the city at least 30% green by 2030 and remove a lot of the concrete pollution where people live.  We're also seeing it with the push for rooftop gardens, etc.  So maybe greening the city will help control UHI and its health implications on people (while also cleaning the air, as more greenery means less air pollution and lower asthma rates too.)

 

Haha good luck with that. 

I requested a few street trees on the parks department website 4 years ago and I've gotten nothing. 

This is on a form specifically made to request street trees in specific locations, I wasn't writing an email to the parks department asking for a free tree or something. 

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2 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Haha good luck with that. 

I requested a few street trees on the parks department website 4 years ago and I've gotten nothing. 

This is on a form specifically made to request street trees in specific locations, I wasn't writing an email to the parks department asking for a free tree or something. 

the parks department sucks, I read that they are replacing playground grass fields with astroturf, which causes more heat and more injuries.... cheap goons (they dont want to pay for upkeep, watering, mowing, etc).

 

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8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

the parks department sucks, I read that they are replacing playground grass fields with astroturf, which causes more heat and more injuries.... cheap goons (they dont want to pay for upkeep, watering, mowing, etc).

 

They do it to keep geese away too.  They did  it to every field in our town. I hate it.  

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11 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Expanded lists of June record high maximum, minimum, and mean temperatures for the New York City area are below:

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Meanwhile, a number of record high monthly minimum temperatures set in the Plains from stations with threaded records extending into the 1800s. No doubt a lot more out there. These are only the ones I checked. I didn't look at any shorter POR sites. This ridge definitely seems to be getting its act together. High temperatures reached at least as high as 108F (Saint Francis, KS) yesterday. Not quite up to 2012 levels out there, but certainly a little more than the "it's just summer" narrative would seem to imply.

 

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27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Incidentally, there's a major push in NYC and other large urban cities like Chicago, to greenify the city.  Because UHI has major health implications too.  The pledge is to make the city at least 30% green by 2030 and remove a lot of the concrete pollution where people live.  We're also seeing it with the push for rooftop gardens, urban farming, community gardens, etc.  So maybe greening the city will help control UHI and its health implications on people (while also cleaning the air, as more greenery means less air pollution and lower asthma rates too.)

 

and yet in the "suburbs", they continue to fill in the spaces between the spaces...

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1 minute ago, Dark Star said:

and yet in the "suburbs", they continue to fill in the spaces between the spaces...

The same people that are super pro environment also want to fill every last gap of real estate with housing haha. 

NYC's UHI has been very pronounced for at least 100 years though, NYC had 8 million people 100 years ago. 

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3 minutes ago, HunterdonWxguy86 said:

In my opinion I would toss this. There is really nothing that supports a strong sea breeze. You can make the case along just the immediate coast. Like I said just my take 

Could easily be wrong but the 6z ICON, UKMET AND Euro AI all have a ocean wind component for Monday now. 

The UKMET especially changed because it was an inferno beforehand. 

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1 hour ago, Sundog said:

The same people that are super pro environment also want to fill every last gap of real estate with housing haha. 

NYC's UHI has been very pronounced for at least 100 years though, NYC had 8 million people 100 years ago. 

there are so many issues with it that go far beyond temperature, like higher rates of asthma and cancer (and light pollution causes cancer too.)

not to mention that high rates of processed food consumption lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc.  So urban farming has multiple benefits.

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1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Meanwhile, a number of record high monthly minimum temperatures set in the Plains from stations with threaded records extending into the 1800s. No doubt a lot more out there. These are only the ones I checked. I didn't look at any shorter POR sites. This ridge definitely seems to be getting its act together. High temperatures reached at least as high as 108F (Saint Francis, KS) yesterday. Not quite up to 2012 levels out there, but certainly a little more than the "it's just summer" narrative would seem to imply.

 

the yucky corn and soy  fields out there have raised the dew points considerably.

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39 minutes ago, Rjay said:

As of 10am

Isp 82

Frg 80

Fox 81

Jfk 82

Ewr 82

Teb 81

Smq 81

Lga 79 (ne wind)

Jones fricken Beach 81

Mtp 79

NYC 78....

 

 

Alot of my friends are headed to the city today to escape the heat. They were thinking about the beach but decided to go to midtown 

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3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

The RGEM, which had the medium grays (mid 100s) running into Suffolk County on the 6z run on Tuesday 5PM now has this at 12z:

 

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None of these models have a good history with modeling a sea breeze front, this is something you have to wait until the day of the event to have a handle on it.

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3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

None of these models have a good history with modeling a sea breeze front, this is something you have to wait until the day of the event to have a handle on it.

That may be true but now pretty much all the models have turned the winds from the ocean instead of from the NW. 

Bottom line if that wind direction is anywhere close to true we're not getting to 104 on Monday like the Euro had yesterday or the day before. 

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