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Talk about getting the proverbial shaft once again ... I don't think our (Texas) luck can get much worse.  This storm had everyone's hopes up so high for at least *some* good rains in the southern half of the state. 

 

I'd rather high pressure "guarding" Texas was more like the 2014 Longhorns defense and less like an SEC team. 

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Talk about getting the proverbial shaft once again ... I don't think our (Texas) luck can get much worse.  This storm had everyone's hopes up so high for at least *some* good rains in the southern half of the state. 

 

I'd rather high pressure "guarding" Texas was more like the 2014 Longhorns defense and less like an SEC team. 

 

Did I miss something?

 

Most areas Austin southward look to get about 2 inches in a widespread area.

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^^ The last few IR frames show it might have made a wobble or turn to the North.

It's a sheared system...center is partially exposed to the southwest of the main convection...visible imagery shows it's about < 50 miles from Veracruz. IR can't possibly show much of where Ingrid is.

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TROPICAL STORM INGRID INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 4A

NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL102013

100 PM CDT FRI SEP 13 2013

...TROPICAL STORM INGRID NEARLY STATIONARY IN THE BAY OF CAMPECHE...

...TORRENTIAL RAINS EXPECTED OVER EASTERN MEXICO...

SUMMARY OF 100 PM CDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION

----------------------------------------------

LOCATION...19.4N 95.4W

ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM ENE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H

PRESENT MOVEMENT...STATIONARY

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...999 MB...29.50 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS

--------------------

CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

NONE

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* COATZACOALCOS TO CABO ROJO

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...

* NORTH OF CABO ROJO TO LA PESCA

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE

EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE

POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 48 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ALONG THE COAST OF EASTERN MEXICO SHOULD MONITOR

THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR

PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR NATIONAL METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.

DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK

------------------------------

AT 100 PM CDT...1800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM INGRID WAS

LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 19.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 95.4 WEST. INGRID IS

NEARLY STATIONARY AND LITTLE MOTION IS EXPECTED TODAY. A MOTION

TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST SHOULD BEGIN LATE TONIGHT OR ON

SATURDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...INGRID WILL BE MOVING VERY CLOSE

TO THE COAST OF MEXICO DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 45 MPH...75 KM/H...WITH HIGHER

GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 35 MILES...55 KM

FROM THE CENTER.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED FROM A DROPSONDE

RELEASED BY THE NOAA GULFSTREAM JET WAS 999 MB...29.50 INCHES.

HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND

----------------------

RAINFALL...INGRID IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE 10 TO 15 INCHES OF

RAIN OVER A LARGE PART OF EASTERN MEXICO...WITH ISOLATED AMOUNTS

OF 25 INCHES POSSIBLE...ESPECIALLY IN AREAS OF MOUNTAINOUS

TERRAIN. THESE RAINS ARE LIKELY TO RESULT IN LIFE-THREATENING FLASH

FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES.

WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO REACH THE COAST

WITHIN THE WARNING AREA LATER TODAY.

NEXT ADVISORY

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NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...400 PM CDT.

$$

FORECASTER AVILA

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It's a sheared system...center is partially exposed to the southwest of the main convection...visible imagery shows it's about < 50 miles from Veracruz. IR can't possibly show much of where Ingrid is.

No, but I think I see I can see, when comparing vis to IR, that a mid level center NE of the partally exposed LLC might be getting colder tops, and might be able to pull the LLC under.  Not sure, however, the convective burst isn't expanding Westward to try to cover the center, which would ruin that.

 

That has been my quixotic hope all day, the center would follow the shear and redevelop further Northeast. 

 

 

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Model guidance is in remarkable agreement on fail.

 

 

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The center looks to be very close to the coast per recon and surface obs...

 

Ingrid might actually wind up throwing itself into the coast after all. Seems possible on this Friday the 13th in the lame season of 2013...

 

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Everything this season has been a fail, and I don't see a big shift between low and mid level vort maxes on CIMSS analysis, but I really think there is rotation in the deeper convection to the Northeast of the low level fail center.

 

Weenie optimism.

 

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/storm.php?&basin=atlantic&sname=10L&invest=NO&zoom=4&img=1&vars=11111000000000000000000&loop=0

 

 

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12Z FIM-9 is a quick turn to the Northeast, followed by just as quick turn to the West, and a 40 to 45 knot landfall in 2 1/2 days near Tampico.  168 hour FIM-9 looks like near 1/2 inch IMBY, up to in excess of 2 inches extreme SW HGX CWA, 5 to 10 inches CRP to BRO, and in excess of 10 inches, with a few 20 inch plus areas along the immediate coast of Tamaulipas.  But flooding rains for much of that state, with excessive rains in the S. Madre Oriental.

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TROPICAL STORM INGRID DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL102013
400 PM CDT FRI SEP 13 2013

THE OUTFLOW FROM TROPICAL STORM MANUEL IN THE EASTERN PACIFIC IS
CAUSING A LITTLE BIT OF SHEAR
...AND THE CENTER OF INGRID IS LOCATED
ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE MAIN CONVECTIVE MASS. OVERALL...THERE
HAS BEEN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE CLOUD PATTERN...AND THE
INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS 40 KNOTS. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE ESTIMATED
FROM A DROPSONDE FROM THE NOAA G-IV JET EARLIER TODAY WAS 999 MB.
SINCE THE GLOBAL MODELS INDICATE THAT THE SHEAR WILL RELAX...THE
NHC FORECAST CALLS FOR GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IN AGREEMENT WITH THE
INTENSITY CONSENSUS MODEL. WE NOTE...HOWEVER...THAT THE STATISTICAL
SHIPS MODEL CALLS FOR INGRID TO REACH HURRICANE STRENGTH NEAR THE
TIME OF LANDFALL.


INGRID IS CURRENTLY TRAPPED IN THE SOUTHERN BAY OF CAMPECHE AND THE
MODELS SUGGEST THAT THE CYCLONE WILL MOVE ERRATICALLY FOR THE NEXT
6 TO 12 HOURS OR SO
. AFTER THAT TIME...MOST OF GUIDANCE...PRIMARILY
THE GFS AND THE ECMWF FORECAST INGRID TO MOVE SLOWLY NORTHWARD FOR
THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS. AS A MID-LEVEL RIDGE REDEVELOPS OVER
TEXAS...INGRID SHOULD MAKE A SHARP LEFT TURN TOWARD THE COAST OF
MEXICO AND THEN MOVE INLAND. THIS IS THE SCENARIO USED IN THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST AT THIS TIME...BUT I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED IF
INGRID NEVER GETS OUT OF THE SOUTHERN BAY OF CAMPECHE.


IT MUST BE EMPHASIZED THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE MOIST FLOW FROM
BOTH INGRID AND MANUEL WILL PRODUCE TORRENTIAL RAINS. AT THIS
TIME...THE MAIN HAZARD FROM THIS CYCLONE WILL BE LIFE-THREATENING
FLOODING OVER EASTERN MEXICO.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 13/2100Z 19.2N 95.4W 40 KT 45 MPH
12H 14/0600Z 19.5N 95.3W 45 KT 50 MPH
24H 14/1800Z 20.8N 95.5W 50 KT 60 MPH
36H 15/0600Z 21.7N 96.2W 55 KT 65 MPH
48H 15/1800Z 22.3N 97.3W 55 KT 65 MPH
72H 16/1800Z 22.5N 99.0W 35 KT 40 MPH...INLAND
96H 17/1800Z 22.5N 100.0W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
120H 18/1800Z...DISSIPATED

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FORECASTER AVILA

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URNT12 KWBC 132142 CCA

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL102013

A. 13/21:26:18Z

B. 19 deg 09 min N

095 deg 19 min W

C. 700 mb 3019 m

D. 46 kt

E. 76 deg 91 nm

F. 167 deg 44 kt

G. 63 deg 47 nm

H. 993 mb

I. 14 C / 2343 m

J. 18 C / 2431 m

K. 12 C / NA

L. NA

M. NA

N. 1345 / 7

O. 1/ 1

P. NOAA3 0410A INGRID OB 01 CCA

SONDE SPLASHED WITH 14 KTS SFC WIND

EXTRAP SLP 991 MB FROM 8000 FT RADAR ALT

MAX FL WIND 44 KT 63/47 21:14:05Z

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Impressive drop...vortex shows 993mb with estimated at 991mb

 

 

Product: NOAA Vortex Message (URNT12 KWBC)
Transmitted: 13th day of the month at 21:42Z
Corrected: This observation corrected a previous observation.
Aircraft: Lockheed WP-3D Orion (Reg. Num. N43RF)
Storm Number & Year: 10L in 2013
Storm Name: Ingrid (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 4
Observation Number: 01
A. Time of Center Fix: 13th day of the month at 21:26:18Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 19°09'N 95°19'W (19.15N 95.3167W)
B. Center Fix Location: 176 miles (283 km) to the WNW (297°) from Villahermosa, Tabasco, México.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 3,019m (9,905ft) at 700mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 46kts (~ 52.9mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 91 nautical miles (105 statute miles) to the ENE (76°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 167° at 44kts (From the SSE at ~ 50.6mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 47 nautical miles (54 statute miles) to the ENE (63°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 993mb (29.32 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 14°C (57°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,343m (7,687ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 18°C (64°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,431m (7,976ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 12°C (54°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Not Available
M. Eye Shape: Not Available
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: 700mb
O. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 1 nautical mile...(nautical mile unit assumed since the unit was not noted for this line)
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile...(nautical mile unit assumed since the unit was not noted for this line)
Remarks Section - Remarks That Were Decoded...
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 44kts (~ 50.6mph) which was observed 47 nautical miles (54 statute miles) to the ENE (63°) from the flight level center at 21:14:05Z
Remarks Section - Additional Remarks...
SONDE SPLASHED WITH 14 KTS SFC WIND
EXTRAP SLP 991 MB FROM 8000 FT RADAR ALT

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