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Something tells me a couple of these EF-3s will be upgraded, especially when looking at the damage photos and aerials of some of these areas.

Salyersville looks closest of anything I've seen.

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A couple homes there look like complete losses, especially the lower center one (expected wind speeds of around 170 mph with that kind of damage). The reddish roofed house left of center appears to be the one in this picture.

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It's not an interior room that survived, but more the front section of the house. Seeing that the roof is mostly intact, this could be more of a slide off the foundation rather than complete destruction. Additionally, the surviving power pole behind the house suggests maybe slightly lower than expected winds.

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Now if this is a transmission tower, then that could also take this right up to 165 mph if it approaches the upper bound.

If it stays at 160 mph, I can't really argue with it. Likewise if they decide to bump it up to 170 mph. It's very close.

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Source is Wikipedia so use with caution but it has 38 confirmed with a breakdown of 5 EF0, 9 EF1, 14 EF2, 9 EF3, 1 EF4

Rather impressive ratio of strong tornadoes compared to weak although this will probably change as surveys continue and perhaps some weaker events are identified.

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Here's the breakdown I have thus far...

March 2nd:

PAH: 1

LMK: 2 (No EF rating/state added below)

ILN: 9

JKL: 3

RLX: 2

OHX: 2

MRX: 7

JAN: 1

HUN: 4

BMX: 3

FFC: 1

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IN: 2

KY: 7

OH: 5

WV: 2

TN: 8

MS: 1

AL: 6

GA: 1

VA: 1

NC: 1

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EF-0: 4

EF-1: 8

EF-2: 12

EF-3: 8

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Total: 34

March 3rd:

GSP: 1

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NC: 1

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EF-2: 1

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Total: 1

Overall total: 35

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Just a note for the breakdown above...

It seems fairly possible that the Henryville, IN EF-4 continued all of the way east into the ILN CWA, near Locust/Carrollton, KY (Rated an EF-2 there). The count will be revised once LMK surveys are done.

If you just take the distance from where it was first reported (north of Palmyra I believe) and go to the Kentucky border, that is about 40 miles. So it is possible that the tornado was on the ground for at least 40-50 miles. We'll see if they find any breaks though.

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Huntsville WFO update...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL

1244 PM CST SUN MAR 4 2012

...UPDATED STORM SURVEY INFORMATION MADISON COUNTY...

...SOUTHERN TRACK TORNADO UPGRADED TO EF-2...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HUNTSVILLE TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT

TORNADO DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED ALONG DARWIN ROAD AND IN A NEIGHBORHOOD

OFF RUBE ROBINSON ROAD IN MADISON COUNTY. THE DAMAGE REVEALED A HIGH

END EF-2 TORNADO RATING...WITH MAXIMUM WINDS AROUND 130 MPH. IN

PARTICULAR...THE SEVERAL WOOD POWER POLES SNAPPED ALONG MOORES MILL

ROAD AND FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF A HOUSE THAT WAS DESTROYED OFF

MORNING MIST DRIVE SUPPORTS THIS UPGRADE TO AN EF-2 RATING.

NEW FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

* EVENT TYPE: TORNADO

* EVENT DATE: 03/02/12

* EVENT TIME: 10:06 TO 10:15 AM CST (TIME ESTIMATED)

* ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 130 MPH

* PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-2 **UPGRADED FROM INITIAL EF-1 RATING**

* PATH LENGTH: 7.3 MILES **INCREASED FROM INITIAL PATH LENGTH**

* MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 220 YARDS **INCREASED FROM INITIAL PATH WIDTH**

* BEGINNING POINT: 34.8502 / -86.5702 **UPDATED**

* ENDING POINT: 34.8716 / -86.4448

* SUMMARY /UPDATED FROM FRIDAY`S STATEMENT ISSUED AT 617 PM CST/:

A TORNADO OF EF-2 INTENSITY WITH A PEAK WIND SPEED OF 130 MPH

CROSSED PORTIONS OF NORTH CENTRAL INTO NORTHEAST MADISON COUNTY

FRIDAY MORNING /MARCH 2/. THE TORNADO APPEARED TO TOUCH DOWN JUST

SOUTH OF THE MERIDIANVILLE-MADISON COUNTY EXECUTIVE AIRPORT OFF

MERIDIANVILLE BOTTOM ROAD WHERE SEVERAL TREES WERE SNAPPED. THE

TORNADO CONTINUED ITS PATH EASTWARD TO BUCKHORN HIGH SCHOOL BEFORE

LIFTING AT A FARM FIELD ACROSS THE STREET /WINCHESTER ROAD/ FROM

THE SCHOOL.

THE TORNADO SNAPPED POWER POLES AND LINES ALONG MOORES MILL ROAD

JUST NORTH OF DARWIN ROAD. THE TORNADO THEN INTENSIFIED AND

DESTROYED A SILO JUST EAST OF THAT LOCATION BEFORE SNAPPING TREES

AND COLLAPSING A BARN ON MACON LANE. THE EF-2 TORNADO CONTINUED

EAST CAUSING SIGNIFICANT TREE DAMAGE AND STRUCTURAL LOSS TO

RESIDENCES ALONG RUBE ROBINSON ROAD AND MORNING MIST DRIVE. MOST

RESIDENCES EXPERIENCED ROOF DAMAGE (LOSS OF SHINGLES) AND WINDOWS

BLOWN OUT. ONE HOME ON MORNING MIST DRIVE COMPLETELY COLLAPSED AND

WAS TORN OFF ITS FOUNDATION. THE TORNADO WAS AT ITS PEAK WIDTH OF

ABOUT 220 YARDS AT THIS POINT BEFORE NARROWING TO 50 TO 100 YARDS

AS IT RE-CROSSED RUBE ROBINSON ROAD. THE TORNADO COLLAPSED A ROOF

AND BARN IN THIS AREA...THEN CROSSED FIELDS FOR ABOUT 1 MILE BEFORE

REACHING RESIDENTS ADJACENT TO BUCKHORN HIGH SCHOOL ON SHADY OAK

LANE AND MAYSVILLE LANE. A POWER POLE AND NUMEROUS TREES WERE DOWN

OR SNAPPED ALONG MAYSVILLE LANE. A RESIDENCE EXPERIENCED

SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE...WITH BRICK WALLS BUCKLED AND A LARGE PORTION

OF THE ROOF TORN OFF. A NEARBY CINDER BLOCK WALL OF A GARAGE

COLLAPSED.

THE TORNADO THEN TRACKED THROUGH THE BUCKHORN HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS

WITH A WIDTH OF 50 TO 100 YARDS. A BLOCK BUILDING USED BY THE ROTC

STUDENTS ADJACENT TO THE STADIUM COLLAPSED. SEVERAL PORTIONS OF THE

ROOF OF THE HIGH SCHOOL WERE TORN OFF. SEVERAL CARS IN THE PARKING

LOT WERE MOVED...TWISTED AND DAMAGED WITH SOME WINDOWS BEING BLOWN

OUT. THE TORNADO THEN CROSSED WINCHESTER ROAD AND SEVERELY DAMAGED

A FARMHOUSE...SNAPPED AND UPROOTED TREES AND STREWN DEBRIS DOWNWIND

ACROSS AN ADJACENT COTTON FIELD WHERE THE TORNADO IS BELIEVED TO

HAVE LIFTED.

THESE FINDINGS ARE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT WITH FURTHER SURVEYS AND/OR

INFORMATION FROM LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND PUBLIC. PICTURES AND

SUMMARY MATERIALS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB PAGE AT

WEATHER.GOV/HUNTSVILLE /ALL LOWER CASE/.

SURVEYED BY: NWS HUNTSVILLE

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The Limestone County-Madison County, AL tornado was also upgraded...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL

612 PM CST SAT MAR 3 2012

...UPDATED STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM TORNADO THAT IMPACTED

LIMESTONE AND MADISON COUNTIES...

ADDITIONAL SURVEY OF FRIDAY MORNING`S /MARCH 2/ LONG TRACK TORNADO

ACROSS LIMESTONE AND MADISON COUNTIES REVEALED A STRONGER INTENSITY

(EF-2 TO EF-3) AND LONGER PATH LENGTH.

A LONG TRACK TORNADO IMPACTED AREAS FROM EAST-CENTRAL LIMESTONE

COUNTY (NEAR THE CANEBRAKE COMMUNITY) TO EXTREME NORTHEAST MADISON

COUNTY (HIGHER TERRAIN EAST OF PLEVNA). IT IS POSSIBLE THIS TORNADO

TRACKED INTO SOUTHERN TENNESSEE (FRANKLIN COUNTY)...BUT COMPLEX

TERRAIN HAS LIMITED CONFIRMATION OF ANY DAMAGE AT THIS TIME.

ADDITIONAL FINDINGS:

* EVENT TYPE: TORNADO

* EVENT DATE: 03/02/12

* EVENT TIME: 9:10 TO 10:00 AM CST (TIMES ESTIMATED BASED ON RADAR)

* ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 140 MPH

* PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-3 **UPGRADED FROM INITIAL EF-2 RATING**

* PATH LENGTH: 34.4 MILES **INCREASED FROM INITIAL 13.75 MILES**

* MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 250 YARDS **INCREASED FROM INITIAL 150 YARDS**

* BEGINNING POINT: 34.7597 / -86.9531

* ENDING POINT: 34.9483 / -86.3994

* INJURIES: SEVERAL (NONE TO BE SERIOUS AND EXACT NUMBER UNKNOWN)

* SUMMARY /EXTENSION OF TORNADO TRACK IN MADISON COUNTY FROM SATURDAY

MARCH 3/:

AT THE CONCLUSION OF FRIDAY`S STORM SURVEY NEAR HIGHWAY 53

AND JEFF ROAD...THE NWS STORM SURVEY TEAM PICKED UP THE DAMAGE PATH

CROSSING HIGHWAY 53...HEADING NORTHEAST. EVIDENCE OF TREES SNAPPED/

UPROOTED WERE SEEN ALONG QUARTER MOUNTAIN ROAD...CARTERS GIN ROAD

AND BEAVER DAM ROAD JUST BEFORE PULASKI PIKE. MORE SIGNIFICANT

DAMAGE BEGAN TO BE SEEN ALONG PATTERSON LANE...BETWEEN MOUNT

LEBANON ROAD AND HARWELL LANE WHERE WOOD POWER POLES WERE

SNAPPED...NUMEROUS TREES UPROOTED AND SEVERAL HOMES HAD ROOF LOSS.

A LARGE METAL BARN/SHED LOST ITS ROOF AND SOME OF ITS WALLS WERE

COLLAPSED INWARD. DAMAGE CONTINUED ALONG HIGHWAY 231 AROUND

MERIDIANVILLE MIDDLE SCHOOL WHERE A CONCRETE POWER POLE WAS SNAPPED

AND MINOR ROOF DAMAGE OCCURRED TO NEARBY BUILDINGS.

THE TORNADO THEN APPEARED TO STRENGTHEN BETWEEN HUBERT ROAD AND

WALKER LANE...INCLUDING MITZI DRIVE. IN THIS AREA...EF-2 TO LOW END

EF-3 DAMAGE WAS SEEN AS SEVERAL SINGLE STORY HOMES WERE DESTROYED

(LOSS OF ALL WALLS). OTHER HOMES RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE WITH

COMPLETE LOSS OF ROOF AND FAILURE OF EXTERIOR WALLS. ESTIMATED PATH

WIDTH IN THIS AREA WAS 200-250 YARDS. JUST NORTHEAST OF THIS

LOCATION...ALONG CHARLEY PATTERSON ROAD...MORE EF-3 DAMAGE OCCURRED

AS 3 BRICK VENEER/CINDER BLOCK HOUSES WERE REDUCED TO RUBBLE. THE

TORNADO CONTINUED TO PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE ALONG BUTLER ROAD

(JUST SOUTH OF WALKER LANE) WHERE ADDITIONAL CONCRETE POWER POLES

WERE SNAPPED AND LARGE OAK TREES WERE SNAPPED AND UPROOTED. THE

DAMAGE PATH CONTINUED NORTH OF NEW MARKET...NEAR HILLSBORO...WITH

ADDITIONAL TREES SNAPPED/UPROOTED AND SOME ROOF DAMAGE (LOSS OF

SHINGLES) WERE SEEN TO SOME RESIDENCES. DAMAGE HERE SUGGESTS THE

TORNADO WAS BEGINNING TO WEAKEN. ALONG DAVIS ROAD...JUST SOUTH OF

MOE ROAD...NUMEROUS TREES WERE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED WITH SEVERE

SHINGLE LOSS TO A HOUSE ABOUT 200 YARDS AWAY FROM ROAD. BEYOND

THIS...THE TORNADO APPEARED TO WEAKEN AND LIFT AS IT MOVED ACROSS

THE HIGHER PLATEAU REGION OF EXTREME NORTHEAST MADISON COUNTY.

ATTEMPTS TO FIND THE DAMAGE PATH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIDGELINE

(ALONG MOUNTAIN FORK ROAD) WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.

* STORM SURVEY SUMMARY FROM LIMESTONE COUNTY TO MADISON COUNTY (NEAR

HARVEST) FROM FRIDAY - MARCH 2:

THE START POINT OF THIS TORNADO HAS BEEN SHIFTED BACK SEVERAL MILES

SOUTHWEST NEAR THE ATHENS COUNTRY CLUB AND GOLF COURSE ALONG

HATFIELD LAKE ROAD OFF HIGHWAY 31. SEVERAL TREES WERE SNAPPED AND

UPROOTED ALONG A PATH THAT CROSSED I-65 AND STRAIN ROAD.

DAMAGE PICKED UP ALONG LINDSAY LANE ABOUT 1 MILE SOUTH OF HIGHWAY

72 IN EAST CENTRAL LIMESTONE COUNTY. IN THE CANEBRAKE

NEIGHBORHOOD...NUMEROUS HOMES SUSTAINED SIGNIFICANT ROOF LOSS WITH

GARAGE DOORS BLOWN OUT AND SOME EXTERIOR WALL DAMAGE. MINOR

STRUCTURAL DAMAGE ALSO OCCURRED IN THE INDIAN TRACE COMMUNITY OFF

WOODLAND ROAD. THE TORNADO THEN CROSSED HIGHWAY 72 NEAR PINEY CREEK

AND CONTINUED TO TRACK NORTHEAST. AT MOORESVILLE ROAD AND PEPPER

ROAD...NUMEROUS HOMES SUSTAINED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE...INCLUDING

MAJOR ROOF LOSS. A BRICK GARAGE WAS COLLAPSED AND NUMEROUS TREES

WERE SNAPPED AND UPROOTED. AS THE TORNADO CONTINUED TRACKING

NORTHEAST ACROSS MCCULLEY MILL ROAD...ADDITIONAL HOMES WERE

DAMAGED...AGAIN SUSTAINING MAJOR ROOF LOSS AND SOME EXTERIOR WALL

COLLAPSE. SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO HOMES OCCURRED ALONG

NICK DAVIS ROAD NEAR EAST LIMESTONE ROAD. DAMAGE CONTINUED TO HOMES

ALONG EAGLE POINT DRIVE AND FREEDOM DRIVE WHERE A HOME LOST ITS

ROOF COMPLETELY AND OTHER HOMES RECEIVED MAJOR ROOF LOSS...BROKEN

WINDOWS AND COLLAPSED GARAGES.

THE TORNADO CROSSED INTO MADISON COUNTY JUST NORTH OF ORVILLE SMITH

ROAD WHERE A SINGLE WIDE MODULAR HOME LOST MUCH OF ITS ROOF AND

TREES WERE SNAPPED AROUND IT. MAJOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE WAS SEEN AGAIN

AT THE INTERSECTION ON YARBROUGH ROAD AND OLD RAILROAD BED ROAD.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORST HIT AREAS AROUND THE HARVEST COMMUNITY.

DAMAGE TO HOMES...MOSTLY COLLAPSED ROOFS AND SOME EXTERIOR WALL

DAMAGE CONTINUED EAST ALONG YARBROUGH ROAD ACROSS BRIDGES DRIVE

AND BEDFORD LANE...JUST BEFORE WALL TRIANA BLVD. ALSO IN THIS

AREA...POWER POLES WERE SNAPPED NEAR THE BASE. DAMAGE CONTINUED

NORTHEAST TOWARD HIGHWAY 53 JUST SOUTH OF JEFF ROAD WHERE THE

SURVEY TODAY ENDED DUE TO INCLEMENT WEATHER.

THESE FINDINGS ARE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT. PICTURES AND SUMMARY

MATERIALS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB PAGE IN THE COMING DAYS AT

WEATHER.GOV/HUNTSVILLE /ALL LOWER CASE/.

SURVEYED BY: NADLER/BURGESS/CROWE

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL

555 PM CST SAT MAR 3 2012

...PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM WESTERN LINCOLN COUNTY

TENNESSEE...

A PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY OF THE DAMAGE ACROSS WESTERN LINCOLN

COUNTY HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PERSONNEL.

INITIAL FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

* EVENT TYPE: TORNADO

* EVENT DATE: 03/02/12

* EVENT TIME: 245 PM TO 247 PM CST /TIMES ARE APPROXIMATE/

* ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 65 MPH

* PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-0

* PATH LENGTH: .6 MILES

* MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 50 YARDS

* BEGINNING POINT: 35.2116/-86.7422

* ENDING POINT: 35.2117/-86.7312

* SUMMARY: A TORNADO BRIEFLY TOUCHED DOWN AT BOONSHILL TENNESSEE AND

PRODUCED SHINGLE DAMAGE TO THE BOONSHILL COMMUNITY

CENTER...UPROOTED EIGHT MEDIUM TO LARGE TREES AND DESTROYED AN OLD

BARN ALONG DELINA BOONSHILL ROAD.

THESE FINDINGS ARE PRELIMINARY AND ARE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT.

PICTURES AND SUMMARY MATERIALS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB

PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/HUNTSVILLE /ALL LOWER CASE/.

SURVEYED BY: TROUTMAN

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...UPDATED TIMING

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HUNTSVILLE AL

517 PM CST SAT MAR 3 2012

...PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY INFORMATION FROM NORTHEASTERN

LIMESTONE COUNTY...

A PRELIMINARY STORM SURVEY OF THE DAMAGE INCURRED ACROSS

NORTHEASTERN LIMESTONE COUNTY HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY NATIONAL WEATHER

SERVICE PERSONNEL. INITIAL FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

* EVENT TYPE: TORNADO

* EVENT DATE: 03/02/12

* EVENT TIME: 339 PM TO 346 PM CST /TIMES ARE APPROXIMATE/

* ESTIMATED PEAK WIND: 100 MPH

* PRELIMINARY RATING: EF-1

* PATH LENGTH: 2.6 MILES

* MAXIMUM PATH WIDTH: 150 YARDS

* BEGINNING POINT: 34.9182 / -86.8581

* ENDING POINT: 34.9190 / -86.8124

* SUMMARY: A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN IN THE THACH COMMUNITY DURING THE

LATE AFTERNOON HOURS ON FRIDAY...MARCH 2ND 2012. THE TORNADO FIRST

TOUCHED DOWN JUST WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF THACH ROAD AND OAK

GROVE ROAD. THE TORNADO MOVED NEARLY DUE EAST PARALLELING THACH

ROAD FOR MUCH OF ITS LIFE CYCLE. THE TORNADO APPEARED TO SKIP ALONG

ITS PATH...LEAVING SOME STRUCTURES AND TREES INTACT BUT DAMAGING

OTHERS. THE TORNADO FINALLY LIFTED EAST OF HIGHWAY 251. NUMEROUS

SOFTWOOD AND HARDWOOD TREES WERE SNAPPED AND UPROOTED ALONG THE

TORNADO PATH. SEVERAL HOMES ALONG THE PATH HAD MINOR STRUCTURAL

DAMAGE WITH LOSS OF SHINGLES...SIDING DAMAGE...AND DAMAGE TO ONE

GARAGE. ONE HOME HAD MORE SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO A SECTION OF ITS

ROOF. A WELL CONSTRUCTED BARN ALSO LOST MOST OF ITS ROOF.

THESE FINDINGS ARE PRELIMINARY AND ARE SUBJECT TO ADJUSTMENT.

PICTURES AND SUMMARY MATERIALS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB

PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/HUNTSVILLE /ALL LOWER CASE/.

SURVEYED BY: DARDEN/CARCIONE

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Salyersville looks closest of anything I've seen.

salyersvilleaerial.jpg

A couple homes there look like complete losses, especially the lower center one (expected wind speeds of around 170 mph with that kind of damage). The reddish roofed house left of center appears to be the one in this picture.

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It's not an interior room that survived, but more the front section of the house. Seeing that the roof is mostly intact, this could be more of a slide off the foundation rather than complete destruction. Additionally, the surviving power pole behind the house suggests maybe slightly lower than expected winds.

825w7.jpg

Now if this is a transmission tower, then that could also take this right up to 165 mph if it approaches the upper bound.

If it stays at 160 mph, I can't really argue with it. Likewise if they decide to bump it up to 170 mph. It's very close.

It could go up. I know ground scouring is not that important but that is pretty impressive.

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOUISVILLE KY

0755 PM EST SUN MAR 04 2012

...PRELIMINARY DAMAGE REPORT INDICATES AN EF-2 TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN IN BRECKINRIDGE COUNTY KENTUCKY...

DAMAGE TYPE: TORNADO

DATE: MAR 02 2012

BEGIN TIME: 347 PM EST

END TIME: 353 PM EST

BEGIN POINT: 4.5 MILES EAST OF CLOVERPORT.

END POINT: 9.5 MILES EAST OF CLOVERPORT.

EF SCALE: 2

WIND SPEED: 95 TO 120 MPH

PATH LENGTH: 5 MILES

PATH WIDTH: 60 TO 200 YDS

INJURIES: 0

FATALITIES: 0

NARRATIVE: TORNADO TRACK BEGINS AT RESIDENCE ON NEW BETHEL CLOVERPORT RD. WHERE 2 STRUCTURES WERE DESTROYED. THIS DAMAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH AN EF-2 TORNADO AND 110 TO 115 MPH WINDS.

TORNADO CONTINUES EAST TO NEAR B FLOOD ROAD WITH ADDITIONAL STRUCTURAL DAMAGE CONSISTENT WITH EF-1 DAMAGE AND 90 MPH WIND.

TREE DAMAGE CONTINUES ALONG PATH WITH ADDITIONAL EF-2 DAMAGE OCCURRING AT 2 CHICKEN FARMS WHERE A 200 YD LONG CHICKEN BARN WAS DESTROYED AND HUNDREDS OF CHICKENS WERE KILLED AND/OR LOST CONSISTENT WITH EF-2 DAMAGE AND 120 MPH WIND. AN ADDITIONAL SMALLER CHICKEN COOP ALSO SUSTAINED DAMAGE AT THE END OF SILAS MILLER ROAD CONSISTENT WITH EF-1 DAMAGE.

THE END OF THE PATH WAS SURVEYED EAST AT HWY 259 WHERE ANOTHER METAL STRUCTURE WAS DAMAGED AND SEVERAL TREES WHERE DOWNED. THIS DAMAGE WAS CONSISTENT WITH EF-1 DAMAGE AND 90 MPH WINDS.

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There's no updated info yet.

Yeah, no report on the casualty toll out of there either...which is worrying. The damage pictures I've seen out of there are phenomenal.

This house (or whatever was there) is completely demolished, you can see the grass was scoured as well:

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More very severe damage, you can see that even homes out of the core damage path were compromised significantly:

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Yeah, no report on the casualty toll out of there either...which is worrying. The damage pictures I've seen out of there are phenomenal.

This house (or whatever was there) is completely demolished, you can see the grass was scoured as well:

90444673-aerial-view.jpg

I would assume that they have searched most or all of the area by now, so hopefully the casualties won't go up.

Louisville had a interesting line in their statement last night which could be interpreted in multiple ways.  It was about how more info will be provided later, even the EF rating, which could pertain to other possible tornadoes or may mean that the door isn't shut on this to get upgraded.  If we assume well built houses (which is a big assumption), some of the damage pictures look more like at least high end EF4.  So I wouldn't be surprised if the estimated wind speed gets raised, at least.

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I would assume that they have searched most or all of the area by now, so hopefully the casualties won't go up.

Louisville had a interesting line in their statement last night which could be interpreted in multiple ways. It was about how more info will be provided later, even the EF rating, which could pertain to other possible tornadoes or may mean that the door isn't shut on this to get upgraded. If we assume well built houses (which is a big assumption), some of the damage pictures look more like at least high end EF4. So I wouldn't be surprised if the estimated wind speed gets raised, at least.

It doesnt look like high-end EF4(190-200mph) to me but you could be right. I was thinking around 170-180 mph.

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   It doesnt look like high-end EF4(190-200mph) to me but you could be right. I was thinking around 170-180 mph.

If we use damage indicator #2 (one or two family homes) all walls collapsed has lower bound of 142 and upper bound of 198 with expected of 170. The next step up is destruction of well structured residence/slab swept clean, which has a lower bound of 165 and upper bound of 220 with expected of 200. I have my doubts that the rating actually gets upgraded but I could easily see the wind speed getting raised.

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I would assume that they have searched most or all of the area by now, so hopefully the casualties won't go up.

Louisville had a interesting line in their statement last night which could be interpreted in multiple ways. It was about how more info will be provided later, even the EF rating, which could pertain to other possible tornadoes or may mean that the door isn't shut on this to get upgraded. If we assume well built houses (which is a big assumption), some of the damage pictures look more like at least high end EF4. So I wouldn't be surprised if the estimated wind speed gets raised, at least.

I think the argument for higher end EF4 damage, is the distance the debris from those two homes left of center was carried. There is next to no debris near the foundations, it was carried a good distance away. That can be an indicator of a higher end tornado.

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I think the argument for higher end EF4 damage, is the distance the debris from those two homes left of center was carried. There is next to no debris near the foundations, it was carried a good distance away. That can be an indicator of a higher end tornado.

LMK also very specifically didn't mention anything about Marysville in the PNS yesterday, only Henryville, Chelsea, and Pekin.

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I think the argument for higher end EF4 damage, is the distance the debris from those two homes left of center was carried. There is next to no debris near the foundations, it was carried a good distance away. That can be an indicator of a higher end tornado.

What really gets me, especially with the left home of the two, is the wind rowing of the debris...

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I see what you are all saying. some of the foundations look like they have very little debris with most of it scattered downwind(maybe close to 200mph). I am somewhat surprised that the Saylersville tornado did not get upgraded to a low-end EF4(170 mph).

The one thing that might be holding them back is that a lot of the homes next to the one that was leveled seem relatively untouched (see post 61). I would agree with OceanStWx that this looks like borderline EF3-4 damage.

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The one thing that might be holding them back is that a lot of the homes next to the one that was leveled seem relatively untouched (see post 61). I would agree with OceanStWx that this looks like borderline EF3-4 damage.

I wouldn't say untouched, and all that is saying is it might have been a smaller sized tornado at this point.

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Just a note for the breakdown above...

It seems fairly possible that the Henryville, IN EF-4 continued all of the way east into the ILN CWA, near Locust/Carrollton, KY (Rated an EF-2 there). The count will be revised once LMK surveys are done.

Looks like it will end up as at least 2 tors...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOUISVILLE KY

1227 PM EST Mon Mar 05 2012

...Damage Report...

Damage Type: Tornado

Date: Mar 02 2012

Begin Time: 3:38 PM EST

End Time: 3:44 PM EST

Begin Point: 5 S of Milton

End Point: Just east of Monitor on Trimble Carroll County line

EF Scale: 3

Wind Speed: 140 mph

Path Length: 3.5 miles

Path Width: 75 yards wide max

Injuries: 0

Fatalities: 0

Narrative: The tornado touched down about 5 miles SSE of Milton,

just west of the Milton volunteer fire station number 2 on Highway

421. This is just NE of the intersection of Hwy 2870 and 421. The

tornado touched down at approximately 3:38 PM EST, and the initial

damage included snapped and twisted trees just west of Hwy 421.

The tornado rapidly increased in intensity as it moved to the east,

directly striking the Milton volunteer fire station number 2. The

fire station was heavily damaged, with the collapse of rigid frames.

A 4000 pound trailer (concession trailer) was moved 30 yards, while

a Ford pickup truck was moved 60 yards. The tornado was 60 yards

wide with wind speeds of 140 mph, indicative of EF-3 strength. The

tornado tracked to the east with extensive damage of trees along Hwy

1226. The tornado weakened to an EF-1 at 871 Palmyra Rd. and at 2130

Palmyra Rd. and narrowed to about 50 yards. Witnesses describe this

as a very narrow, skipping tornado. Pictures confirm this.

Witnesses saw one vortex coming down from the apparent wall cloud

and quickly lifting before a new vortex came down nearby. On Culls

Ridge Road, the tornado strengthened to an EF-3 once again with 140

mph winds. It damaged two homes with many exterior walls partially

collapsing. The most significant damage here was an electrical

transmission line which collapsed a metal truss tower and snapped

several power poles in a path width of 70 yards. The tornado

weakened from there to an EF-1 tornado, damaging trees as it crossed

into Carroll County with wind speeds in far eastern Trimble County

of 85-90 mph.

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What really gets me, especially with the left home of the two, is the wind rowing of the debris...

I agree, that really jumps out at you. Of course this tornado is already rated an EF4, and I don't see any really compelling evidence to make it higher than that. I do think that maximum winds were likely higher than 170 mph (which I believe is what the preliminary reports were).

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Looks like it will end up as at least 2 tors...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOUISVILLE KY

1227 PM EST Mon Mar 05 2012

...Damage Report...

Damage Type: Tornado

Date: Mar 02 2012

Begin Time: 3:38 PM EST

End Time: 3:44 PM EST

Begin Point: 5 S of Milton

End Point: Just east of Monitor on Trimble Carroll County line

I think this tornado is a good example of the misinformation that often occurs early on after a natural disaster. In real time the report we all heard was that there was nothing left of the Milton fire station. While the building is a total loss in terms of functionality, we can see there is still much of the structure remaining. So while early reports suggested EF4/5 it was more like EF2/3 damage.

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