Typhoon Tip

Mm...ridge in the west, unlike pretty much ever since early December, is actually depicted in a good longitude ( axis ) centered on D6 ...check. What I don't like is the impulse in the south that offers the seed/enticer for the stream interaction/phase ... it appears too concerved given the heights along the Gulf/continental interface latitudes leading (D's 4/5)... It seems that would be absorbed a bit more.

It was 10 F here a couple weeks ago one morning... I dunno - seems like an impressive cold shot to me. In fact, there's no lack of cold air ...it's just not being delivered and/or sustained around or geography. Just look at the polarity in the Euro at D10... While not a testament as to it's probability of occurrence by any stretch, there is still a vast pooling of sub -20 C 850 mb layout over the Canadian archipelago of the N. Nah issues has been the super-structure of the hemispheric flow won't align into a delivery/sustaining scenario - and hasn't really not once all year since mid December, for whatever reason. Not all all times..I mean, he have been side-swiped by impressive cold, setting up a couple a good radiational cooling morning ... and those single digit anomalies too place. But, the lack of sustaining is certainly true.

don't be so literal it's a goodly bit tongue-in-cheek. "It wouldn't shock me" is a common trope for half hearted seriousness

You're problem is that you think I'm trying to predict something there... that's an OP ed approach and conveyance - look up what that means. Opinion piecing isn't what you are after there -

Oh, 1888 is coming ... that's the thing, people read missives like that, latch on to one thing, and then almost compulsively over-react - but ... this is what happens when you give provincial rabble that virtual podium and mike of the Internet - Also, you get sociological histrionic crisis' that flirts with anarchistic meltdown. Space and remoteness, and dimmer technology used to protect actually, because by the time time "word" spread, it was already marinaded to truth by the crucible of time it took to actually get that word around. Now, it's so easily disposed, there's 0 zippo no vetting. Just misinterpreted source and reaction. But I digress... I'm kidding half way here... don't over react ahaha

No argument from me... In fact, I was digging around out in the main forum with those seasonal outlooks and found a post I made back in October hinting pretty strongly that I feared no reason to go against the climate migration model and the HC expansion/fast flow contamination issues ruining this winter, just like last year. Gee, what the f happened? Sorry, it's pretty clear that we had trouble with stream mechanical phasing, and cyclgonic entropy was large because of the torn open atmosphere. Yeah, I've been warning for a long time now ( meaning five seven or eight years ) that most these seasonal outlooks, few appear to have taken the latest research/observations/CC factors into account and still prog with too many vestigial influences of 1965 causation manifolds between water, land, and the more ephermal atmospheric indicators. They are not valid in 2020 ... hint - those method/validity started eroding in usefulness ... roughly around the onset and post the super-nino of 1997, and have gotten really quite obviously less than useful in the last five years. I was just talking to Harvey Leonard earlier today about this, he made this statement to me, which was a veritable echo of my own sentiments I made in a passing comment/missive in one of these scrolled threads in here, a couple of months ago: "I have never really seen one quite like this, for combo of warmth, and not even any “close calls,” or “near misses” since mid December." In concept this is exactly what I said to y'all, 'it is getting increasingly more difficult to sustain a snow potential atmosphere at our latitudes of North America, without some sort of either concurrent or antecedent, direct -EPO loading to support' I dunno - when combining the total worldly perspective on matters, we may already be in a Philly climate now... Wouldn't shock me. I mean, most empirical evidence to date in support of the CC stuff, shows that the change has exceeded modeling expectations ...in some case by decade(s) depending on the focused metric. Why not blow our f'n winters away too - But, before anyone panics, even in a Philly climate ( if more than merely tongue-in-cheek) it snowed a foot last week south of there in the slope country of the Carolinas. There are no absolute boundaries in climate, it's all about rarity.

It was 2015 ... We had 120" ( average ...some more, some less) spread out over a month, which is 12 feet... So in an affect ( or is it "effect" in that context - ) 2015 was worse by a factor of two. Although...hm, they say 4,5 and 6 feet on the level, and that about matches what happened in my town... At max static depth I had 50" ... It was hard to stack higher than that, despite being so cold during that fabled February, because the snow was so low ratio and so pancaked by it's own weight. I think a lot of the specter value is era/adaptive relative. I mean, 1717 was a pre-industrial pump, lever, and oxen powered culture, replete with 'state of the art' log cabins and no plumbing in most cases. No automatic home heating. Nor refrigerators... and so on. We can stock a fridges and load up on Netflix and wait it out these days, and with snow plows and higher tech solvent chemistries on roads ... what's 20" ? whatever... I never was delayed by that 16" deal we had in Dec... Back in the 1980s when I was a kid, that would have been an geological epoch! Now, I think I made the gym both days of that. It's just not the same folks... and this is a dying hobby believe it or not, if for want this is a hobby about dystopian excitement. Not to mention, we have ( apparently ) earned our latitude a Philidelphia climate now. ...but we'll see on the latter.

Just like with troughs...the onus is on the Euro to be right about a ridge that amped in that time range - it's meridian bias beyond day 6 is prevalent regardless of what how those verification scores seem to consummately evade what is patently clear it does over the U.S. and that's blow up ridges and black hole troughs - pretty much both ways.

Two days ago I snarked words to the affect that given the American teleconnector spread ( both agencies, too..), another one of these absurdly early runs at 80 F ( and that's happened three times in the last five years between Feb and Apr btw ) wouldn't shock me; and then I just saw the 12z Euro with a +12 C plume over Pa/upstate Ny heading this way... Three or perhaps four years ago, we made 85 F with 14 C in March .. which can exceed that adiabat purely be dry air expansion. The CDC version is even more demonstratively warmer all fields, every sector right out to the end of Week 2 - good luck winter enthusiasts...but, having just humored and bewildered over the content the last several pages, it seems those types are collapsing under pressure. Good! save your psyches

Yeah again... flow relaxation finally, but to no gain because the underpinning pattern remains... It's just a less fervent version of the same shit. I was hoping with the AO toppling from +orbit to a mile above 0 SD ... ( jesus ), together with relaxing/climo, might herald some sort of quasi-blocking/"bowling" option. WRONG Anyway, if anything I gotta wonder if the operational runs are too cold obsessed in the East with this layout- granted I don't know what the EPS looks like but ...this fits the tenor/season trend too well to ignore so I'd almost be willing to bet on relentless persistence/verification, and go ahead and assume if the EPS flags any other semblance than a butt poking it's full of shit... But well see....

If this were the only guide... we're heading for an early run at 80 again ...

And seeing that D10 Euro with a spring bubble all over the OV/TV down to the Gulf, with a deep western trough, along with a total and absolutely perfectly wrong r-wave configuration for winter in the east like...everywhere, ugh ... fine

Yeah ...I can certainly understand why the winter weather enthusiast may be particularly disenchanted this morning... ha. I mentioned this yesterday ..day before, but the idea for the last week of Feb into early March was for two fold, pattern relaxation + plausible climate expression for season ending blocking. It's hard to say if that's absolutely impossible in total; if it took place, we still would run through a two to three week period where improved cold cyclone performance chances and so forth. But the overnight runs et al seem to really go out of their way to make that vision less likely to occur. The relaxation part is much higher confidence... There is a reduction in the isohypses counts from middle Canada to the Gulf of Mexico latitudes over our side of the hemisphere, but what is interesting in a not so enjoyable way to the cinema seeker ( heh ), is that the pattern is still a giant piece of utter shit. It's really just taking the same R-wave distribution, and relaxing it; but the vestigial structure is unchanging, and is a distribution that is really pretty awful. It's amazing to get an entire winter with no pattern evolution. That's a first for me. Since that early event in Dec, as far as I can surmise ...the pattern has not deviated - it relaxed for 10 or so days a month ago, but the underpinning look has not changed. interesting... In any case, the American ( cdc and cpc ) have never shown a good teleconnector spread since Dec btw - a point I've also made at times ( and ignored at times...) the whole way.

it's a funny battle on the Euro - like going to a derby ... I mean, that big high and it smashes the low right through it like that... But, the ridge is still too far west for a east coastal commitment on this run

Mm hm

Actually ...the American teleconnectors don't really flag that ... So, maybe a signal will emerge, who knows... but its a much easier assumption there will be a ridge with seasonal homage to spring on that day - heh

That's the kind of changeable drama one lives for ... that 300 to 306 hour GFS is fantastic in that regard. Goes from 40 F with cat paws at ORH (300), to 8" and post flash frozen powder in near 0 visibility 6 hour later... Hey, happens all the time, right ?

oh ...guess you did.. Goes without saying, it's more probable that there is a kind of physical marker our there around that time for an index/pattern change event, sans all details or even system type - the models will do that. A 'vulnerable' period gets filled in with 'computer imagination' when it's way out there in time.

Did you see the holy shit eye-popper planetary wave event out there around the [ highly likely to happen ] 300 hour GFS ...

You just mix it up... Problem is obvious; everyone dies and there is end to all this that is inexorable, and knees are part of that, ...as is everything in the body... the sun and planets..etc. But, we can conserve things and make them last longer and get more enjoyment out of the journey, if we employ some common sense and modulation based on science and personal limitation and so forth. Example, I figured out that if I Elliptical for 50 minutes at level 14 on day one, then on day two ... stationary bike for 50 minutest at level 10, then day three...run 4 1/2 miles... by day four, I can Elliptical again because it's been four days since I did and those particular muscle aren't bitching about it... SO, I take a day off every ten days or so, but otherwise, this rotation with some light free-weight work and abs, keeps my weight down under 200 and that feeds back to helping joints and so forth from that wear and tear. And everything else is improved under the hood with also a willingness to explore healthier dietary sourcing... blah blah... not intending to preach...But, we should all be determining what our personal bio-physiological limitations are, and working to just below that level - anything else is bullshit, unless you are chained up in a dungeon.

I believe so... I've had better personal success anticipating Pacific circulation tendencies by considering whether the WPO --> EPO ( circuited through the northern arc of the total basin space obviously ) with time lags. I've seen these bigger negative EPO index progs, fail more times when the WPO was positive ...and vice versa ( succeeds ) when the WPO was falling and slipped negative ( or even just falling is usually good enough), first. I mean like everything in correlation and causality in this atmospheric maelstrom, there's exceptions and there are no 1::1 between indices... But, the stronger correlations tend to have a kind of "connective tissue" like that. etc.... It's like a recurving Atlantic hurricane season lends to +NAO state in early winter as Lance Bozart et al statistically showed years ago - the link there is a the dumping of latent heat into the Icelandic low tend to curl up into the lower arctic domain and you end up that way... There's all kinds of these loaders around - ...If the WPO tanks obviously negative and lasts ... I take an NP/EPO downward modulation more seriously than if these latter attempt to do so without the leading WPO is all - ... but I don't ignore them altogether for that lower percentage occurrence(s). Heh...just jugglin' the indices

OH I don't know... I just know that the WPO is partially motivated into index changes by the torque budget and the flow orientation coming off the massive Asian continent - which can be a bit complex with several massive mountain cordilleras and what have us completely destroying any laminar flow types at planetary scales... yikes! But, the flow still tends to be NW in the N. Japan Sea and there are big winter storms and NE plume loading in north Japan ... origin roughly Kamchatka/far eastern Siberia...

Heh... no thanks. More power to you but ... we can have a severe rare events here regardless - I realize you're being partially tongue-in-cheek, but goes without saying, snowing on April 7 doesn't mean anything to a lightning bold on May 10 ... Unfortunately, there is no 'want' or fulfillment therein in this climate up here. We kind of have a "geological tuck" circumstance over eastern N/A really... Particularly N of the Va Capes (roughly) and all over eastern Canada and the Maritimes down through New England. The normal torque budget of the wind has a built in anti-cyclonic curl that's always there, ... offering a folding force that wants the flow to bend N ... and NE at least excuse. It's probably why we BD so frequently here... we can drill it into small scale causality...and be right - but technically, that foundation is sort of there because the prevailing N-hemispheric westerlies naturally want to turn anti-cyclonically around the continents... The have the same issue in eastern Asia/Japan, too... The flows in these regions rise up (tendency ) in latitude as they encounter the land, then...around a flattish arc and that tendency then descends upon exit. SO anything that happens inside there has that constructive (destructive) interference going on relative to the small details taking place. They don't backdoor in Seattle or San Francisco nearly as frequently for a reason...

That's plenty... Under the right conditions, sure it is. In fact, routinely on radiatively cold mornings at mi casa ... I leave the driveway in the valley at dawn ...it may be 22 F on the dash therm, and as I wend my way through Devens...the elevation changes by 30 or 40 feet, and it'll be 27 F... then, back down to 23 F at the Nashua River ...sometimes with ground fog, then back to 31 F out west toward 190 S.

Ha ahahaha... word In my own proclivities to lament the futility of winter as February's age on are only new to new users, I can honestly say, if this all went 82 F until next October 10th, I couldn't be happier. I mean, don't folks get enough abuse? haha... But I'm still not sold that we won't get a cruel reminder here a couple of times over the next three weeks - it looks shaky now, but I feel my arguments around late season climo for blocking is clad enough that with an AO that is easing down, there's possibilities.