I now see what ur saying. It's impossible to say for certain as there's no watly to prove it, but the western vort alone could do the job if the first 1 was gone. In fact, it might have less interference. But again, pure speculation. Regardless of how, it seems like all models now show the storm except for the Euro's 12z run. Methinks that changes and will be reflected on the Eps if not the 18z operational.