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January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Noticing some wide spread with snowfall algorithms with the 12z GFS. Pivotal looks reasonable. The 12z CMC just pasted all of NE TN. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Pivotal has the NE TN snowfall on Jan 8th on its site. Sharp, sharp cutoff. 6-7" from say Hawkins Co to the east. Trends will be a total bear for this. I would not assume this system trends NW as previous systems have. This has been treading steadily SE as the block has been felt - so, this could be a one off. However, seeing a couple of models jump on this system at 12z at least catches my eye. Would be feeling really good in western NC about right now. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 12z GFS and ICON are very close to a snowstorm now on the 8th/9th for NE TN. The ICON has measurable snow here, and the GFS just pasted all of western North Carolina and NE TN from Sullivan Co eastward. Event has to be "super close" in regards to temps as WxBell has a major event but TT does not. WxBell has 5-6" across NE TN in the valleys. The ICOn has 2-4." -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
To varying degrees, the 0z CMC and GFS open up the flood gates in terms of Arctic air. The CMC manages to get the job done before hour 240 - likely too fast, but very cold. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
0z GFS just hammers middle and west TN around the 10th. Storms are definitely feeling the block now. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah, 17-18 (late Dec/early Jan) when we had that monster -EPO....one of the driest patterns I have seen during mid-winter and very cold. The North Fork of the Holston froze over here. I could be wrong, but I doubt with this background rainy pattern that we go very long without a storm pattern. If we get cold, might start seeing some 70s analogs start to show up. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Very cold northern hemisphere on the 18z GFS-Para as Holston notes...-30s at the very end of its run into North Dakota. That will probably change in future runs one way or another. That said, we want to see that type of cold showing up periodically on modeling during the next week. Saw some hints this morning that the flow was reversing late in the d14-16 time frame. So, seeing a slight rend towards some extremes just after the middle of the month. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Quintessential Nina cold pattern - meaning some Ninas are warm, but that is how it looks when cold. Cold lays NW to SE. Winter storms attack the base. Great find! -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 18z GEFS appears to have gotten the message - for no. Good run. One chance right after another. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Beauty of a Rockies to EC trough post 300 on the 12z EPS. Same feature that has been there for days, but deeper. If we see that persists, that is a good signal that particular trough at 500 will be quite a bit stronger. The EPO ridge is also better positioned and a bit stronger. Good look. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
IF we can hold that pattern, should be one after another in terms of things to track. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
That is the @tnweathernut window. LOL. Yeah, that looks really good on modeling. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Something to keep an eye on. The 12z Euro is actually SE of its previous run. Will be interesting to see if that comes back NW or if the block is being felt now - good test. The CMC was super close to something good. Almost looks like it is lacking precip for that vigorous of a vortex. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Man, Holston, I may be taking apples and oranges. I really need to look at the dates/times. You are talking the Tuesday deal? Sorry, I was talking Jan 8-9. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Crazy thing, this "could" move substantially NW over time and amp up. Anything substantially to our south or SE has to be watched due to models bringing things back so much NW at the last minute. We will see the big NAO reverses the NW trend with past systems to a more SE suppressed trend. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
With six days to go, still a lot of movement possible. Almost seems like modeling can't decide between the 8/9 system or the 10/11 system in terms of which one to amplify. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
At 141 on the Euro 12z, that little bowling ball on the 8th is a bit further south as it enters the forum area. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
If the southern stream energy were to check-up and slow down OR the northern stream catch-up...big storm. What is right behind it has my attention. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
That is Jax's bowling ball system. Just kind of bowls underneath....I have had my eye on that one for a bit - nice synoptics but lacking in cold. The CMC almost did some good things with that. Wonder if it will trend north with time or feel the block and trend south? -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Additionally, TRI finished -0.4 for the month of December with 4.6" of snow at the airport. Precip was 0.15 AN(thought that might be higher). Last December was +5.7F. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Will be interesting to see what kind of AN departures get built prior to the 8th. Yesterday at TRI we were +13.5 for Jan 1. Right now, were are already at 60. Will be fun to see if those can get erased. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Also, I remember modeling was steadfast in December that the 18th would be the beginning of a big warm-up...and it snowed on the 24th. LOL. I like this type of "push back" of the pattern. It is usually the other way around. Wonder if NAO winters feature "warm that never takes hold" because modeling just hasn't had to deal with it very often during winter. I suspect modern era modeling has been developed when the base state for winter is normally a +NAO. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yep. The CMC is considerably colder than the GFS at 12z...have a feeling the GFS is playing catchup even if the CMC is biased a bit cold. Makes me wonder if the MJO is playing too big of a factor in its(GEFS) algorithms vs the NAO block. Oddly, one thing with has not verified is the monster NAO which has been been modeled. The -NAO is there but has not been to the extreme modeling has shown...but I have a feeling it is about to maybe meet those expectations during the next two weeks. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Day10-15+ discussion... I am probably one of the few, but I don't think what happens after the 10th(especially after the 15th) is settled. There are basically two camps for the MJO this morning. One camp is the ECMWF which holds in phase 2 right at the COD. The GEFS rotates at decent amplitude into phases 3 and 4. This likely explains the tendency of American modeling to try to more quickly move the trough into the West on some recent operational runs. I think this is a less likely scenario than the EPS, but I can't rule it out. Overall, there is a trend to retrograde the future trough westward. Some, like the EPS, retrograde it into Texas. Some, like the last several runs of the CFSv2extended, pop a ridge in the East and never look back - a solution which has yet to verify this winter I might add. So, I still lean with the EPS/GEPS this AM, but can't rule out something completely opposite of those models due to MJO differences. We are still dealing with cold source problems at this latitude. I think the mid-Atlantic near DC, Maryland, and Virginia looks like it could score in this pattern. Yesterday, I talked about the flow of cold out of northern Canada. Still very apparent today as Canada is pretty much emptied of seasonal and BN cold by the end of the upcoming week. Around d13 the flow reverses back towards NA on most modeling, with the 6z GFS being the quite aggressive. I think it is tricky business knowing where the cold will go once it returns. I suspect that goes into the Mountain West and then moves eastward sometime after the 15th. There is still a risk it could hold in the West if the CFSv2 is even halfway correct. If American modeling of the MJO is correct, the cold dumps West. If the Euro is correct, likely rotates into the East after first going into the Mountain West. Again, this is the time of year in which the Euro/EPS combo is very good. Some might say the Euro missed the Feb strat split and subsequent cold during March. True, but that was shoulder season territory where the Euro struggles when wavelengths change IMO. So interesting times. Short to midterm discussion... Still some potential during the next couple of weeks for high elevation snows and maybe threading the needle in the valleys. The operational 0z Euro is warmer than its 12z counter part from yesterday. That said, there is a tendency to push a cold front through around the 10th-11th. If real, that would a time to watch. When we have had significant cold fronts this winter(early Dec and Christmas Eve), we have had our chances. So, looks like a couple of windows, Jan 8/9 and Jan10/11 depending on your model of choice. The CMC is fairly aggressive with the 8/9th system. Agree with Jax, that is a bowling ball deal where it just "rolls from the Mountain West through a TBD track in the south. Then, there is potential for another system right on its heals on the 10/11th as seen on the 6z GFS and 0z Euo. -
December 2020 Medium/Long Term Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
Agree. Sneaky little system with a HP over the top. If it trends a bit more south...