powderfreak

Blowing and drifting will fill it in.

You two are like an arguing married couple on here.

One of the Sunday River base areas after the rain storm... yikes!

J.Spin has to be getting crushed by this squall. 30dbz over him right there at I-89 and the county line. That usually corresponds to 1-2"/hr rates at least, just depends on how long it lingers.

Pretty decent squall line just hit the mountain. Looks like a quick 1-2" so far on the snow cam.

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Lol at the ensembles.... the individuals are all over the place. From Massena jackpot to Caribou and everything in between... along with non-events thrown in.

12z EPS mean.

Yeah now thinking about it that would’ve been too far north for Pinkham. I’m thinking of like Dec 13-16 in that range I think. City of Plattsburgh, NY had 36”, BTV only like 20” as the band sat from like SLK to Jay Peak to far NNH. If I’m remembering it right that might have been the storm an observer in SLK area had like 17” in 5 hours.

Which Dec 2003 storm? There were several... I think the mid-Dec 2003 one gave the Jay Peak coop at 2,000ft like 42” in 24 hours. Plattsburgh, NY had 36”. That was a crazy meso-scale band. Edit: Now that I think about it that band might have been too far north for Pinkham.

Oh that’s only 24-hour snow... I was going to say that area has to have 20”+ storm totals.

lol... none of that Mid-Atlantic angst is allowed here this early in the season!

I’m only joking, couldn’t care less one way or another. Too far out with a southern stream sort of firehose that could track anywhere. I still wonder if the two options are just wide right and weak or really jacked up and west... would have to really thread the needle to get the right track at the right intensity to work in that garbage air mass.

But the 6z ICON is a good hit, so we thread start? lol

00z EPS was a nice overall mean if you smooth out the super amped runs with the wide right runs. Somehow I don't think it happens like a middle of the road thing... it either seems weak and right, or very wound up and left.

Some flurries this morning. Headed in the right direction now.

It has been very rough for the ski areas... just busting your balls . We were closed today, never happens at Stowe! It probably had some to do with a COVID season and not worth exposing people to any contact with this product, but we probably should've been closing on these days in the past anyway. It was always a pride thing to never shut down, even in the worst weather.

It is funny looking at the maps. Phin, I wouldn't worry about it, lol. Most other NNE spots southeast of you haven't seen more than Dusting-2" yet. The forum will revolt when you start talking about how bad it is. Randolph is still by far the highest total around.

Yeah I was throwing in the October snowfall for a season to date analysis. And honestly 2018 skews your November snow quite a bit LOL. The certainly count, just like the absurdly low months, but on a smaller sample size that type of massive month plays a role. I think you are right on the median. Just another one of the ways the NNE mountains get to "normal"... but also leaving a feeling of being unsatisfied. There are definitely seasons when we get solid snowfall numbers when you add the inches up, but it feels off. Not saying this is one of those but the early start has that vibe. Like when I would complain in a main thread and then someone is like "But Stowe is showing 275" for a seasonal total on the mountain...and you aren't satisfied?"

This is a classic case where the actual inches of snow flakes that have fallen from the sky since October 1 in Randolph may not be that far from normal to be honest... but the “feel” and vibe is of a very slow start. Also starts to feel slow when the bigger events were 4-6 weeks ago in October and early Nov. Sort of like the opposite when you get one snowfall early and then it’s cold, that snow sticks around and feels like an “early start” but you are actually behind other years snowfall, but those years featured a lot more grass and melt.

Even here, 16-17” or whatever it is in November, I’ll have to check my notes. We did really well with that warning criteria snow back on Nov 2-3. That was 7-12” for the lower elevations around the Spine and 12-18” at 1500ft and above. BTV was like partly cloudy for some of that. I’m still impressed with the 8.5” snow depth I had after that one and it had like 0.75” water on 10” snow. Was a legit snowfall. Crazy it’s been a month now since that event.

It’s the little things. Hiking in shorts at high elevation in N.VT on Dec 1st. BTV with a 66F and record max.

I am walking the Stowe Rec Path to pick up my SUV from the mechanic... in shorts and a hoodie on December 1st. It’s 60F, partly sunny. There are people out here jogging in shorts and T’s, bikers, it’s like a May Day on the Rec Path. This is absolutely wild. Dews are up so it’s not even a crisp 60F. Might need to take the dog for a hike and enjoy this rare day off in the warmth.

Yeah no way to put a very heavy grooming machine on the snow in that slop and I don't think I've ever seen Stowe open without at least one groomed route down. MRG can pull that off but not a ski resort like this... they need at least one groomed route but a large heavy tractor would've just made a mess in this weather. The SE flow was very efficient at wringing out moisture on the east side... the east side of the county lines got about 1" more water than the west side. Like look at J.Spin's 1.77" and then you probably go 4 miles through the Spine and there's an inch less water when I-89 comes out on the other side.