powderfreak

Yes that’s true, the upper reaches probably would be whiter. But they’ve been above the clouds all week it seems, ha.

The circles. They park in the Bonanza Flat trailhead and snowmobile to their homes. When I was out in Park City last March I saw them sitting up there at like 8000-9000ft buried to the second story, and you can see their snowmobile roads. My buddy knew someone who lived there and for being some place out in the wilderness, it's like a 5 min snowmobile ride to your car and a 15 minute drive down into all the creature comforts of Park City.

Yeah I'd go mountains winter and beach summer. Living in a trailer and just pullin' it around from season to season. I personally love the ocean too, the vastness and the weather around that. Same thing with mountains. Ideally for me it would be out in Brighton Estates, Utah... 500" of snow a year and accessible only by snowmobile or snowcat during the winter months. There's such a cool community up there.

The true gradient in terms of snowfall chances is definitely along the higher terrain of SNE; reality for winter weather is likely a much more nuanced boundary line like you suggested. You are right there, we were just looking at it from different angles. It's always a good discussion when it includes climate zones.

It's true, but at least we try to have a weather climo discussion during the candlepin bowling pattern when in the dead zone between model runs.

Yeah I think we are talking on different scales. It's a gradient so for sure if compared to spots further east, it's less marine influence. But compared to like Springfield/CT Valley it's maritime. They'll see low clouds and east flow and higher RH in the means at ORH/TOL. More NEly flow. To me there's a bigger axis at play that includes the east slopes of the ORH/TOL zone as maritime.

Yup, I've heard you mention it. I'm a believer. The geography that sticks out into the Atlantic and deviates from the mean coastline from SE US to Maritime region. Large scale ocean feedback overwhelms that smallish slice of land on the grand scale. Good description as a marine hybrid climate.

Local exception for a very small area inside that line then. Sure. But the larger scale geography on the whole features a lot more marine influence in that area that sticks out into the Atlantic. The line on the whole, as an average, works pretty well for areas that are affected more by marine influences and ocean storms. Differentiating from the interior climate, wind speeds, vegetation, moisture, etc.

The real question is, where would you chose to live in a mobile home or camper, etc? No matter where you live it’s small square footage and not luxurious, but this is the place/location you absolutely love, wouldn’t give it up for anything. Where is it?

Yeah maybe I'm looking too much at the big picture. I'm talking synoptic scale, that's why ORH is always just right "in any direction" to get hit with a coastal storm. It's on the line between coastal plain and interior, IMO. It is on the axis of the large scale Atlantic coastline.

Yeah I could agree with that, it's pretty close to what the geography says. I always think of it based on the shape of the East Coast and Atlantic Ocean... if you smooth out the east coast you can easily see the anomaly that sticks out into the Atlantic. Obviously the coastal plain extends north and south of that line but, that's the larger scale coastline, IMO.

We had some decent flakes flying again this morning under the low level cloud deck in town, dusted up the roads. The low levels seem to have had a lot of moisture lately, especially overnight when the nocturnal inversion strengthens. Crystals have been forming in plentiful numbers. 8F here but no diamond dust at this point.

Someone in this area could read your posts and think you live in Utica, NY. IMO you are the coastal plain if east of a line from like NYC to Portland, ME... that sticks out over the ocean in the larger scheme of things. The interior is like Tamarack-Dendrite-Poconos line and west.

One can hope.

Even with the lack of snow and the absolute torch relative to normal so far this winter, the only redeeming value has been that temperatures have been sub-freezing enough to retain the little snow that has fallen. It's one of those things I've always felt around here... where 4-6" looks the same as 24" in the general landscape viewpoint. If you are looking at a wide field, as long as you can't see the corn stalks or grasses.... no matter how much snow is there it all looks about the same, a wintry scene. Two photos still with a wintry vibe all things considered: View from the Rec Path while walking my dog down in the valley bottom, looking due east at the Worcester Range that makes the western Stowe town line at 3,000-3,600ft. Black circle is where second photo was taken from looking back at this area. Likewise a friend's photo from the Stowe Pinnacle (black circle on first shot) looking back westward over the town of Stowe, with Mount Mansfield and the Spine forming the western town line. Pretty much everything seen in this shot is the town of Stowe (2nd largest town in Vermont by square miles). But this view looks the same whether there is 4-6" of snow or 24-36" on the ground.

Everyone just needs to go candlepin bowling.

12F right now at 6pm in the valley. Good to see some seasonable cold. Ice made serious gains up here the past few days, the River out back has frozen up real quick. Low of 6F two days ago made the most ice gains but tonight should build it fast too if it’s already low teens.

The inversion pics from this morning are wild. I love this one from a friend about how fluid the atmosphere is... flowing left to right like water moving over rocks. Can see why the Spruce Peak base area mixes down some strong winds there on that SE side.

This would put some hair on our chests.

What a morning. My version of Sunday morning church.

Maybe we get a period of snow at some point in the next few days? ECMWF has a 1-3" nickle possible. Other models not as enthused. What a boring stretch for precipitation. At least the clouds have been cool in January.

Wish we got to wander around old European cities during a record snowfall... bucket list stuff.

I can't believe the amount of open water around here, even smaller ponds. Though the past 24 hours did put ice over a lot of stuff in a very short period of time. Just not thick enough by any means.

American sounds familiar. Long time ago but candle pin was fun. Good call by 40/70... the Candlepin Pattern.

Love candlepin bowling, haven't seen it up here in this area but remember it a lot from SNE. Used to go all the time in Southbridge, MA growing up from Woodstock. Is that place still there?