powderfreak

Yeah we got like twice as much rain as it looked like we’d get too... with dews, high winds, and now it’s just rotting wet snow where it’s left.

Yeah for sure, I think the fact that it’s rain and not snow is what makes it interesting. Snow measurements can be all over the place but water doesn’t usually have those issues. I agree the 45mph gusts definitely play into it as it seems all the heavy rain events have those SSE winds in his obs, so it is definitely with that wind. Anyway, the Euro found a Day 10 storm, lol:

I just saw our dew point hit 56F overnight. Yikes. 60/51 currently. 1.46” for water.

Noticed the guy up the hill behind you had 1.82”. Seems like we’ve found in heavy rain events he’s going to do considerably less than you for water for whatever reason.

Over 1" rain is all I know as the stratus overflows. We've picked up two to four times the amount the 12z GFS and ECMWF had through this time. Models showing 0.3-0.6" earlier through 11pm. But with this type of jet and transport moving across New England, probably could've taken the over on the rainfall.

Makes sense. This has been alarmingly efficient at raining. Looks like you guys up through Phin's area is about to get into another firehose shortly. And you know it's likely seeder feeder raining harder than radar shows in the mountains and upslope wind flow.

Ski country getting swamped. I see 2.25-2.50" so far in the Bethel, ME/Sunday River area so far. Some near 3" amounts in Jackson to Bartlett area southeast of MWN. Yikes.

The entire east slope of the Greens is solidly 1.00-1.75" so far based on PWS amounts up and down RT 100... Sugarbush area up through Waterbury and into Stowe. I mean that's a pretty massive QPF bust going on it seems. Yard is like a swamp. Not really stoked on vastly over-performing rain right now. Mountain must be taking a beating.

Even over here my Stratus is overflowing so it's 1"+. Models didn't have anywhere near this amount of rain here. This was just the 12z EURO showing about 0.60" here through 11pm/4z. We will at least double that. The 12z GFS was even worse.... like 0.30-0.40" through 11pm. The local PWS are at 0.30/hr right now lol. Huge fail.

It would be incredible to feel that change in an hour at some point in my life, ha. It's hard to mentally process a 50-degree swing in 45 minutes.

Crazy thing is there is some 4000ft terrain to his immediate NW that also looks to be affected.

18-24” BTV and local area up here in that one. Think BTV had like 50” that month, Dec 2003. My first winter up here and everyone was like you’ll be screwed in the Champlain Valley... then two 18”+ events and a 10” thundersnow paste job later... I thought those events were the norm lol.

We decided to close for tomorrow, reopen on Wednesday.

Mansfield is 34F and 70mph gusting 93mph. We are shutting down lol.

What dreams are made of! The morning was actually kind of nice but it went downhill real fast 12-1pm. Torrential wind-swept rain outside now at 1500ft, lol. The radar image of skiers dreams.

You hit it and Will was sort of on the same page. I think it’s two different comparisons. It CAN be cheaper and relatively cheaper for what are known as the “core” group of skiers... the users who go a lot and rack up days, find the shortcuts, know what to do and not do. It is an expensive sport for a very large segment of the skiing public who average 3-5 days on slopes per year. Skiing gets cheaper with usage on a per day basis. You get more use out of the equipment, you find frequent customer benefits (ie. passes), you learn not to buy lunch, etc.

Yeah I agree. I get what J.Spin is saying and there are ways to make it "cheap" but on the whole as a family it's certainly an upscale activity compared to the US population as a whole. Maybe upscale isn't the word to use... but it's for financially comfortable families if that makes sense. You can do it cheaper and there are plenty of ski bums who ski 100+ days a year making $22,000 a year at an entry level job... but I think it's still expensive on the whole when compared with a lower income lifestyle (compared to what they might normally spend on leisure activities, if any at all). I think the barometer is where do you draw the line between "upscale" and "low income" and what's the gray area between that. This isn't like a sport like tennis or where you buy a $60 racket at Dicks sporting goods that lasts years and can use municipal tennis courts to play. I mean if you are willing to earn your turns, skiing can be pretty cheap with a ski swap set-up and the right bindings... you could ski all winter for like $200 but that's now what most people think of when they think of skiing.

So here's the historical data... day ticket prices are up $23 from pre-Epic Pass and the season pass is cheaper by $1,324. Okemo is the same... day ticket up by about $20 and season pass cheaper by $1,000. The last year of AIG ownership... Stowe lift ticket $124 with a season pass of $2313. Last year... $147.34 vs. $989.00 for season pass.

What? Someone is paying $200-300 more per day to ski now? Stowe pre-Vail was the most expensive ticket in the East Coast and the adult season pass was $2200. The Stowe day tickets have not risen appreciably since VR took over and the pass dropped by like 60%. We see a LOT more first timers and beginners than we ever did before. I'd say it's getting a lot more people into the sport here at least that never skied Stowe before. Again, even 5 years ago a day ticket here was like $120 I think and we have never done cheaper non-holiday or mid-week tickets. It's always been the same rate be it a random Tuesday or a holiday Saturday once it switched out of early season rates.

I thought tests were free? My wife and I didn’t pay a dime and the local hospital said it was “written off” as their words. Or are you talking like private testing locations? The admin’s words were “how can we expect to stop the spread of people have to pay for them?” I was like ok sounds great I’ll be back lol.

Good to hear man. Mild cases? My sister and her family have been cleared. Bad headaches and head colds were their main symptoms but have passed now.

C’mon, this is America (where we all have a dose of entitlement, myself included, like it’s baked into our DNA)... nothing will stop a lot of people from their expensive leisure vacations, lol. First world problems on the whole. I did have a good chat with a commercial real estate developer from Boston who said if he lost the ability to spend his money on expensive trips where he wanted to go and buying pointless consumer items along the way (his words lol), what’s the point of building wealth? He almost honestly seemed concerned with his work ethic slacking if he couldn’t spend his money how he pleased. Like his effort at work was directly correlated to him doing whatever he wants in his free time.

I think Stowe sold out to capacity on Wednesday and again today. From what I saw it is not deterring many people... or if it is the more limiting factor is the capacity restriction. Exactly how summer and fall foliage was. The demand was still larger than the capacity allowed, even with 99.9% of the US population having to quarantine for two weeks to visit.

That was a serviceable run through Day 10. Lots of mess-scale snow chances in the upslope areas. I feel like any snow we get in the next 7-10 days though is going to be of that nature over synoptic snow.

Maybe global warming? I think another met was opining about how warm it was despite low heights last night. <duck and run>