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Remember last year we were seeing tons of snow on the controls, only for that to disappear towards D0. We may not see any snow on the controls this year, but we’ll see if something sneaks up on us inside D3-4
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Same page. I had a debate with bluewave on this a couple weeks ago. Not throwing shade at anyone here, he's obviously a very smart guy who does his research better than most people on here. I just think that there's some confirmation bias going on given familiar "nina-like" patterns common with the last several winters, even if the conditions today are pretty different. I don’t think anyone is immune to this, for sure not myself.
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Down to 28 for the low. 32 now
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That’s consistent with MJO 3-4 in the RMM forecast. You say RMM isn’t much use, but I see it in good agreement with the VP forecast. Also worth noting that the max -VP anomaly is further north into the bay of bengal rather than within 5s-5n of the equator. I don’t think the 30c pool in the wpac will have as much influence as nino 4, which will start to dominate. We see that in the RMM chart because it kills the MJO wave before it goes into the 4-6 areas. That’s a nino pattern.
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Will be interesting to see what the next MEI value is. Maybe we’ll finally put the “background nina” concerns to rest.
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We shouldn’t even be looking at op solutions past day 6. If you must, look at the run to run trends going back 4-5 runs. Then you’ll see why.
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Also 25.9 for the low
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Nice work, we’re on the same page. My outlook is pretty similar.
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I skimmed through. I think he’s splitting hairs. Would have to read it again with fresh eyes though
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SON should come in at 1.7 next week. If 3 and 3.4 stay up, OND should come in at 1.9 and that’ll likely be the trimonthly peak.
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The east based or dual forcing scenario isn’t a convincing one to me, yet. We still have a huge pool of >30c ssts east of the dateline. Cherry picking model runs aside, I think the mean forcing throughout the winter will be on/near the pool with the warmest ssts (and where the largest sst anomalies are).
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My neck hurts… from the Webb whiplash
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Happy thanksgiving ladies and gents!
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Yeah, and I think today's model runs are responding to this change.
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Ensembles still show an active STJ, even if its not directly over our house. Op runs will flip flop in the med-long range, one will show dry another will show wet. That’s all we can take from now
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My bar is 3 trimonthlies above 2.0 for a super. Even if we got to that point, I don’t think the atmospheric response will reflect a super. More like high end moderate to strong.
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76-77 was cold, but it was also dry
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The recent WWB plus this: Only bolsters my confidence that the nino will overpower the -PDO, and we’ll see it mostly uncoupled even if it stays negative.
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2.36” final total
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That line pushed me over 2" 2.14" with some leftovers to come
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And don't forget the big MJO 8-1-2 event back in the spring that kicked off the first WWB. I think some are holding onto a certain bias that ignores recent 8-1-2 incursions.
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Torrential now
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Not quite, but maybe it should have. PDO was positive that winter, but came after a triple nina -PDO just like this year. QBO was positive though. Solar max, too (we’re close to it now).
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I think the nino will eventually win this battle royale. although Ji correctly pointed out 72-73 as an analog, it was east based. This nino is not. Besides 72-73 was near normal temp wise. Just bad luck we missed a blizzard to the south of us. The better analog in my opinion is 65-66. Also 2009-10 is not off the table either, though I’d want to see what the next MEI comes in… and what the MJO does into mid-late dec.
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