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Started. The wind farm out in LI was contracted to charge 300% over spot energy rates…which are terrible to begin with. Who's getting that money? A foreign company thats who. Who’s paying it for it? Subsidized by NY and federal tax payers who don’t even use that power. Its a disgusting deal. The other power source is in another country - Canada - who hate us - dumb dumb dumb. So we have the second highest electricity rates in the US and there is no hope of that changing that unless we can fleece federal taxpayers into subsidies. NO WAY will NY ever build more power plants. Impossible. Except subsidized wind farms.

in other words sunscreen and installs

Sweden tried socialism back in the last century. They really had that utopian vision of paradise everyone dreams about. Then, they (the people) realized how quickly they were going broke and how unsustainable it all was. They were on the brink of collapse. Luckily they were still a democracy and were able to turn away from the failed experiment and avoid the police state and gulags. Swedes don’t have the stomach for real socialism it turns out. We do have this new breed of socialist now…lightweight socialists. They tend to like or even own vineyards and drink Prosecco. They’ve never once set foot in a socialist country and have no clue what socialism looks like. I am likely one of the very few people on this board who's been to any socialist states. Multiple, pre wall socialist states. The real thing. There was no Prosecco.

If you’re not afraid of socialism, you can’t be afraid of anything. Humans don’t do well under socialism. People have different desires, whims, goals, tastes, religions, etc. and socialism doesn’t allow for that, so you get concentration camps and gulags. Like in China and North Korea. Everyone is supposed to be equal (poor), or more equal (the communist party members). there is a lot of heavy industry up there in the nordics, and Norway is as much a petro state as any with few peers. The largest gas rigs on esrth are norwegian. Also, Sweden has the second highest per capita murder rate in Europe. Behind Albania. Paradise is elsewhere.

Uh...you should see what socialism does to the environment...Chernobyl anyone? I'vealso seen eastern Europe prior to the wall coming down and - and China are not exactly Thunberg adherents. The State comes before all else and no fs given about climate. They are building coal plants still like no other place on earth! its gross in China. I've been there too.

A lot of 'industrial' farming has gone no till actually.

organic farming is about 30% productive vs. industrial farming. Organic is wholly unsustainable for the global population. Agree on the pollinators tho. thats effed up and a threat. the bugs are dying.

yeah millions woops. I'll edit my post

except the population is growing in excess of 8 billion. Yes we have new disease threats, and also ways to mitigate them, and increasingly so. Flawed argument dude.

not even close. We used to die of tooth infections and scratches. A zit could kill you in the middle ages, nevermind poxes and malnutrition.

Modern agriculture and global transportation are huge factors, You could argue industrialization began when humans began farming and genetically modify crops through selective breeding thousands of years ago. Maybe a stretch, but populations started to take off then.

It's an interesting point. There were constant severe and crippling famines prior to industrialization that wiped out entire cultures throughout millennia of human history. Humans/homo sapiens tend to be less prosperous and less prolific during cold periods, and more prosperous during warm periods, and it's never been more the case than right now. In fact, you could argue that the climate prior to industrialization was hostile to human prosperity, and that industrialization mitigated climate hostility to an extraordinary degree. Humans have proved adaptable and resilient (there was a point in deep history where there supposedly less than 10K of our ancestors remained for example), so we will likely manage earths heating until the next Milankovitch cycle set to kick off in about 10 to 15 thousand years from now. Ice ages tend to be killers, so that is a bigger threat to humanity vs. the CC now - nothing grows on ice. Then we have about 500 to 750mm years to survive through until the earth becomes entirely uninhabitable by any life forms due to the sun's increasing size and radiance. It will boil off the atmosphere and oceans, etc. Life on earth will only span about 1/3 of it's history. The only thing that will get mankind through these events is even more extraordinary technology - including interstellar type stuff. None of the rocks within the Kuiper Belt will be options. So in terms of climate, the long term prospects for humans depend on getting through the forthcoming ice age cycles (there are dozens remaining before the curtain closes) and then getting off this rock. By comparison, agio climate change affects are a mere river crossing. It may be that industrialization and technology are the only way humans would ever stand a chance long term, so it's like a catch 22. Of course, any number of things can wipe us out in the meantime - disease, nuclear war, a space rock, incredible volcanism...I worry more about those esp. for within my lifetime, remote as some of them are. Good luck!

Depends how much co2 and water vapor these guys vent into space this week. I guess

Its a dog

I hit 77.1 so far

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14536433/Six-hurricanes-smash-US-forecasters-warn-blockbuster-season.html Let the hype begin

Looks like leaching of some sort - but that it only happens with snow is odd. Maybe somehow the snow and frozen ground surfaces it.

Saw an article about a new AI weather model: “Aardvark reimagines current weather prediction methods, offering the potential to make weather forecasts faster, cheaper, more flexible and more accurate than ever before,” ”Tests of the Aardvark model revealed that it is able to outperform the United States national GFS forecasting system using just 10 per cent of the input data, leading researchers to say it could offer a “revolution in forecasting”. If you just want better and cheaper than the GFS, you can use a dart board. Darts are pretty fast.

Froze here

Yeah! Same as the cold all winter. Never happened.

Solar isn’t a solution up here for many, especially NYC dwellers. Like at all. The nuke plant worked great. Now we have an extension cord running up to a waterfall in another country for power. Which by the way the Indians up there want to shut down. Sacred fishing or some shit. Risk management office derelicts in NYC.

Wabbit. Or very small kangaroo.

Hahaha. We both read Cormac McCarthy I guess. I skip the big words tho.

Boy I have seen this happen numerous times on seasonal roads turned sled trails. Always amusing - usually a hefty groomer had to go in there and make the recovery. I always laughed at these dumbass rookies everytime…. …until it was me. Tug Hill - all backroads are snow covered all the time in good winters so hard to discern in many cases whats a seasonal road turned trail and whats plowed - you have to just know. I had me and my kid and a buddy along on the trip, one sled on a single place trailer. The truck was a 2000s vintage explorer. We were on our way to a remote bar/motel/sled rental to grab a rental sled. Made a left turn according to GPS and shit here we go! Instantly knew I had just made a galacticly stupid mistake apparently sitting on my brain at the time. I just kept my foot in it and squirreled around the trail in 4x4 and jesus h christ we made it the 1/2 mile to the bar to this day I have no idea how. Moderate ruts on the trail. Sleds saw us on the trail just shaking heads but no one saw us pull in to the parking lot (easily accessible from another direction). We sheepishly and quickly unloaded, grabbed the rental and split on the sleds, abandoning the truck. We were staying at another hotel about 50 miles away which I was glad for. Came back to the truck a few days later and hightailed it outa there feeling dumb as shit - more than normal anyway. Red face went away a week or so later. sidebar - in the middle of nowhere sometime later, my buddy lost the key to his rental sled. We were properly fucked. I lost it. Exploded to 11 blind with rage. Melted right down. Then I opened the cowl, looked at the ignition, unplugged the key connection (like a 5 prong plug), rotated it 180 degrees leaving one prong outside of the ignition plug, prayed, then it started right up. Jubilation. Polaris 600 from the 2000s. Key was useless, and thank the almighty for his interventions looking over our dumb asses that day. No other explanation.

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