PhiEaglesfan712

Wasn't something like this happening at this point 3 years ago? How does this compare to winter 2022-23?

If we don't keep Dallas, then we have to re-sign Grant Calcaterra. But we need to keep at least one, and draft a tight end in the early rounds.

Probably not, and if we do, it will be mostly rain. There is just not much sustained cold air between now and the end of the month. I tried warning you all that if there wasn't a snowstorm in the first ten days of January, we might be waiting a while for one.

2021 Wild Card loss -> 2022 Super Bowl LVII appearance 2023 Wild Card loss -> 2024 Super Bowl LIX win 2025 Wild Card loss -> 2026 Super Bowl LXI???

Probably not because I'm going to Vermont 1/25-1/27. So, if there's one when you're away, there has to be one when I'm not away, which has close to 0% chance of happening.

MEI just updated. ND 2025 came in at -0.8

The temperature departure for January is going to be near normal by the end of today, if not tomorrow, in many places in the East, with the warmup just starting. I don't see sustained cold anywhere in the near future. We may not end up the absurd positive temperatures of January 2017 or 2023, but January should end with above average temperature departures in most places in the East.

For the first time since November, I'm using my fan. I can feel it getting warmer...

16-17 and 22-23 were my favored analogs at the beginning of the season. I always felt that December was going to be on the cooler side (this verified), but January and February were going to be warmer (looks like that's what's happening). [As I'm typing this, I'm using my fan for the first time since November. It's getting warm already!]

Baltimore had 80 inches of snow in 2009-10 (might I add this total was reached by 2/15... the temp reached 90 by 4/6), and 0.2 inches of snow in 2022-23. PHL had 78.7 inches of snow in 2009-10, and trace in 1972-73, as well as 0.3 inches of snow in 2019-20 and 2022-23, and 0.8 inches of snow in 1997-98.

They're just going to have to hope that everything comes together in early-mid March, like it did to save 2009 and 2017. Those seasons were going below average without March. If it doesn't snow, it might be better if January and February torched than if they were cold. If those months are cold, then it's likely that March is going to be warm, and if that's the case, then the winter's cooked. Remember, we've been in a cold pattern for the most part since August. A uber warm month is lurking around the corner.

There's no way you all can be calling this the biggest mid-winter la nina collapse when 2022-23 literally happened just a few years ago. That year, you had a deep multi-year moderate la nina to begin the season turn into an ENSO neutral by winter's end, and later transitioned into a strong el nino the following season. We barely had a la nina this year.

I think everyone in here would be up for a moderate el nino, with a neutral or +PDO.

I just hope the flip +PDO will last long term, and not fizzle out quickly like it did following the dissipation of the strong el nino in 2016.

It has happened before. That decade between 1982-92 had 3 back-to-back-to-back: the super el nino in the early 80s (82-83), a double-season strong el nino in 86-88 (which peaked in summer 87), and another strong el nino in the early 90s (91-92), though its warming effects were muted due to Pinatubo. However, that was during a +PDO strangehold.

December 2025 PDO: -1.01 Record 72nd straight month (and completes 6 straight years) of negative PDO values: 2020 -1.41 -1.48 -1.75 -1.32 -0.52 -0.75 -0.92 -1.33 -1.04 -0.62 -1.58 -0.98 2021 -0.61 -1.09 -1.67 -1.84 -2.04 -1.82 -2.00 -0.95 -1.96 -3.14 -2.75 -2.71 2022 -2.40 -1.91 -1.67 -2.09 -2.23 -1.31 -2.63 -2.38 -2.28 -1.81 -2.40 -2.21 2023 -1.24 -1.65 -2.45 -3.08 -2.41 -2.55 -2.54 -2.48 -2.99 -2.23 -1.79 -1.66 2024 -1.57 -1.34 -1.54 -2.11 -2.98 -3.15 -3.01 -2.91 -3.56 -3.80 -3.13 -2.03 2025 -1.28 -1.40 -1.12 -1.15 -1.67 -2.64 -4.21 -3.23 -2.32 -2.37 -1.54 -1.01

+5F above average or a Top 10 warmest month. Since 2015-16, that has happened at least once in the November-March period, except for 2018-19: 15-16 - November, December, March 16-17 - January, February 17-18 - February 18-19 - None 19-20 - January, February, March 20-21 - November 21-22 - December 22-23 - January, February 23-24 - December, March 24-25 - November, March

La nina being basically dead does not mean it's not going to torch. In fact, the last time a la nina dissipated (in 2023), January and February absolutely torched in the East. Remember, the East has been in a cool pattern since August. We are due for a well above average temperature departure month.

We've been in a cold streak for the most part since August. We are well overdue for a well warmer than average month.

I'm not really mad about last night's loss. I'd much rather the loss yesterday than next week. If the Eagles had won last night and lost next week, it would have been all for nothing. At least if the Eagles win next week, then everything is forgiven. It's not like we had a perfect home season to defend. (I'm still a bit annoyed that we lost the last game of the 2017 season to the Cowboys before winning Super Bowl LII, but it's been forgiven.) Besides, we kept the 11-win regular season streak alive, and have a chance to tie 2000-04 next year.

Not sure why you posted it again. You could have waited for the ND update, which is probably next week.

Yeah, I posted on Dec 9 that the MEI updated:

lol, this looks more like an el nino or a +PDO than a typical -ENSO/-PDO.

Yeah, the last time a clipper really worked out was the one in January 2005, which turned into a Nor'easter.

That happens in just about any la nina December in years ending in 5 or 0. 1995, 2000, 2005, and 2010 were all very cold and snowy Decembers. Even 2020, which was near normal temperaturewise, had a big snowstorm in the middle of the month.