BuffaloWeather

This map doesn't seem to be correct. All 3 of Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse averages went up when in latest 30 yr averages. The old averages were 1981-2010 with the new being 1991-2020 https://www.weather.gov/buf/newnormals New 30 Year Climate Normals (1991 - 2020) Buffalo: 94.7" to 95.4" Rochester: 99.5" to 102" Syracuse: 123.8" to 127.8" With this being said Rochester and Syracuse have had some of the worst winters in their history the last few years and when the new 30 yr climo norms come out they likely decrease quite a bit. Buffalo has had 2 consecutive above average snowfall yrs. I contribute that to mainly luck as we are a big snowfall climo with lake effect snow events. Some interesting data below

Video of last lake effect event. FInished with 17.3" here, 2 feet south of here over the hilltops, and over 3' on the tughill. Pretty solid first major event of the season, up to 22.2" on the year so far.

Year anniversary coming up in a few days. Little thundersnow video I did of this event.

As winter season picks up just want everyone to know here that we have migrated over to discord. If you would like an invite, please send me a PM. We're almost at 100 people that joined and over 10 being meteorologists. Anyone in the great lakes, ontario, and upstate new york are welcomed. Lots of lake effect discussion to be had with posters living all over the main snow belts in New York.

A warm winter is likely every season in this new climo. Buffalos last below average dec-feb time period was 2013-2014, a decade ago. https://www.weather.gov/buf/BUF_top10

There isn't much to experience. It's usually warm and dry. Not sure why you would be frightened by it.

Makes sense but those maps are pretty terrible as quite a few counties had above average snowfall across WNY.

Where do you get these maps from? Buffalo had a top 5 snowfall year and according to your map we didn't. I had 185" here with annual around 120" and it shows me 50% of normal last winter.

We’ve discussed on our discord about the urban heating effect at Buffalo. Check out some of the overnight lows in summer this year and see if you see anything fishy. Love this kind of data

This data is flawed. 5 yrs isn’t nearly enough data to justify a conclusion. It’s clearly colder along lakeshore than at airport.

A degree is a massive difference in that timeframe

When was the last day 2 10% hatched tornado probs in michigan/ohio/indiana?

Should be good to go for chasing Wednesday. Was thinking of driving to around Toledo and awaiting rogue cells that form ahead of cf. Can go north or south based on what forms. Would anyone pick a different starting location?

Any chance this rolls over into weds?

Why do people get so close?

I think I might be able to chase Weds if anyone here wants to meet up.

Will this extend into Indiana and Ohio on Wednesday? Was thinking of taking a PTO day and heading out chasing if it does.

Many of these recording stations were different back then. Buffalos was right on the lakeshore before 1940 and much cooler than the location it is now (airport) Rochester and Syracuse changed locations too. Not sure about Erie. Any data pre 1940 needs to be tossed at least for Buffalo, not sure when ROC and SYR moved.

I guess it’s how you judge a severe winter. This winter had 2 severe storms which imo have a bigger impact then Snow cover. Not to mention loss of life. 6” on the ground all winter with temps in the 20s isn’t “severe” by any stretch. Imo this is a rather dumb rating system. The Buffalo Christmas blizzard will likely go down as worst winter weather. Conditions east of the Rockies ever…39 straight hours of blizzard conditions with single digit temps. Wind gusts of 79 mph and 50”+ of snow. Drifts were 20’+. The only place you see that type of weather is in the mountains.

51 people died in Buffalo this winter due to the storms and its rated as moderate. 17 were literally found frozen to death outside during the Christmas Blizzard.

lots in discord

Finally some active weather moving into New York! Everyone here went to discord. If anyone would like an invite in the Ontario/New York corridor send me a PM for invite link. We have a really active ontario crew in our channel now, as our weather is pretty similar to theirs. We're up to 77 members that joined.

Amazing write up by buf nws https://www.weather.gov/buf/lesEventArchive?season=2022-2023&event=D

3.8, I was on way back from bathroom and almost fell. The shaking was intense I thought it was a sonic boom or something.