Carver, I guess we can stay optimistic, but in reality we got a long ways to go before any type of cold regime sets in. I'm rooting for it to happen, because most like winter weather and not warm weather all winter lol. I believe that it will be later in winter if we see anything other than a few cold days. Front loaded just dont see logical at this point imo. Would like to get a sustained cold pattern however way we can get it.