LibertyBell

Ed I noticed in early season events the south shore does better than the north shore does. More examples of this are October 2011 and November 2012 JFK vs LGA.

Yes and just as I read that I heard a report in the media about this being forecast to be the coldest winter in the area in the last 50 years lol- I wonder who made that forecast?

I remember Isotherm did some research on this before, but very cold Novembers actually seem to be negatively correlated with snowy winters- I hope that doesn't happen this time. Considering how November 1987 and 1989 went and the winters that came after that.

I wouldn't be surprised if FOK or HTO or MJX go below zero, would that be the earliest time?

Reminds me of 2001-02 with how the Carolinas got hit with snow and we almost got a 0 that season.

I thought I saw a report of 2.6" at Logan? The 0.1" must be a typo or error

Sounds like the famous Feb 1899 snowstorm, 2" of snow in Tampa and 34" in Cape May

Thanks Don, 1989 rearing its ugly head again lol

this winter better be nothing like 1987-88

or TVs for Brits

Was that around the Vets Day snowstorm? I think that fringed us with a couple inches.

Seems to be paralleling whats been going on with Arctic sea ice this year lol

JFK hit 90 in October 2007, on the 9th I think?

There was also a major hurricane up the east coast that season

Biggest and quickest snow and sea ice recovery ever going from late September to late November? We had our latest sea ice minimum this year, around the first day of fall.

1976?

Wow this is a very late complaint but that is a huge undermeasurement if they expect to also represent the Five Towns area. We had at least 6 inches of heavy snow and it was really hard to shovel the next morning even though it was fluffy. Parts of Long Island had close to a foot. Temps definitely weren't an issue as it stuck to the roads right from the beginning- including on Broadway, where I happened to live. Temps were in the 20s the whole time. Nov 1995 was also a bit of an undermeasurement that was closer to 4" here. No wonder JFK was the only local area reporting site not to hit 70" that winter! JFK has data going back to 1949? I think they were Idlewild back then but I didn't know international airports existed around here back in the 40s lol. Did they measure snowfall going back to the historic 1947-48 winter, Chris?

Wow JFK's Nov 2018 is already #1 for snowfall? What happened to Nov 1989- I thought JFK got 6 inches of snow the night before Thanksgiving.

It's always been that way, I wonder what kind of data they use on that model, nothing like the Euro that's for sure.

Most wintry Thanksgiving I can remember was Thanksgiving 1989- it would be really hard to match that!

It's even more amazing since this is the earliest that Thanksgiving can ever be, since November 1 was on a Thursday. If you read between the lines about where the warmest anomalies are expected (the Pac NW), that usually means the coolest anomalies are on the east coast.

It looks like a foot and a half lol I went there to see how it was and my house up there is snowed in.

Will what was the reason for coastal hugger track? How much more snow would there have been had there been more of a classic benchmark type track like November 1989?

Reminded me of November 1989 type cold right before the Thanksgiving snowstorm. The cold lasted through December, unfortunately the snow did not for us anyway.

NAM/EURO combo has been golden the last few years (since Jan 2016 really). Something to think about going forward.