LibertyBell

and the climate change subforum lol yes- although I look down when I type for extended periods but I have a memory map of where most of the keys are even when I use only 2 fingers. by the way speaking of the climate subforum there is breaking news! Do you know of the Tokamak project in Europe to produce controllable nuclear fusion? They just announced they achieved a world record 59 megajoules in 5 seconds in a controlled nuclear fusion reaction!

"upstate NY" I would argue that north of Tarrytown is upstate lol

Either way I hope they include Brooklyn and Queens as part of long island lol

I hope I made a good case for the Poconos too in my above post.

Having a place in the Poconos i agree with you there is absolutely nothing as peaceful or as beautiful as getting a little bit of light snow every day for days and then having that snowcover stick around for an entire winter. I had a 5 day flurrystorm one week while NYC had just dry and cold windy weather....they were lake effect streamers that got enhanced by the Poconos elevation and became a real snowstorm in the mountains where my house is at 2200 ft. It would die down every night but pick back up during the day-- my perfect combo. You know that year we had snow in May? Well at my house (and I'm nowhere near as north as you are, I'm at the latitude of the Bronx)....we had an accumulating snowstorm Friday night and then snow squalls all day Saturday with wind chills below 0 and the snow actually stuck, with visibility near 0....and then the following Monday we had a severe thunderstorm with hail that I could see accumulate on my pool cover! What a 4 day period that was! The best of both seasons right there.

Yeah I dont get it either-- they either dont travel between boroughs or it doesn't click with them that all those bridges and tunnels they need to use to get off of Manhattan means they are on an island LOL

You know the other thing I always had trouble with? Convincing people that Australia actually was bigger than Greenland. That damn Mercator Projection! I always preferred globes to flat maps even back then. I remember this back in 3rd grade too-- people simply wouldn't believe me when I told them Greenland was smaller than South America and Australia....I actually didn't know what the Mercator Projection was until the following year, but I did notice the lines of latitude stretched out the farther north you went and I used that to figure out that Greenland was no way anywhere near as big as either of those continents. The other thing I clearly remember was that people didn't believe me when I told them that that little hook part at the extreme north point of Minnesota (near Lake of the Woods) was the northernmost point in the 48 states.....noooo, they said, Maine is further north, see, it's higher up! Nevermind the fact that latitude lines are curved and clearly show northern Maine isn't as north as northernmost Minnesota is.

Ironically enough you might be better off on an island for more frequent bigger snowstorms. Try Nova Scotia....I know it's Canada but that place is awesome for both snowstorms/blizzards and tropical systems too. I went to Halifax once, it's a really pretty city. It's on a peninsula but it's much more island-like than continent-like because a peninsula has water on three sides, so it's three quarters of the way to being an island lol. Labrador is actually an island and might be even better because its further NE but I can't stand NFLD for various reasons (most of them political and environmental.)

Exactly! I kept telling my parents that when I was in 3rd grade and we lived in Brooklyn and they didn't believe me (they especially didn't believe me when I told them Brooklyn was on long island lol and they were adamant about it and told everyone-- he's just a kid and doesn't know what he's talking about, ignore him LOL), and my mom was a doctor, mind you, it wasn't like she was dumb in the least. People just don't notice (or maybe even care) about these things. The only reason I knew was because I was super fascinated by maps even I was that age and used to draw/sketch maps of the boroughs (and then long island when we moved there the following year) back when I was 8-9 years old.

Do you know that people in the city don't believe me when I tell them that Manhattan is an island and that Brooklyn and Queens are part of Long Island? They also don't believe that one can live in the city and yet also live by the beach..... they say, what beach? This is New York City, there are no beaches here. Brooklyn and Queens should just secede and join Nassau and Suffolk County and form our own city, let's call it Long Island City ;-)

Wow, that reminds me of a report I saw on Pattrn where they said that by 2100 only 1 of the last 21 Winter Olympics sites would still be able to hold them because of AGW.

Is that a hint of a prediction coming from you?!

It was honestly better when we had one thread for everything. I love reading so I have no problems reading several pages.

We even had snow in April, with 1-2" after the very warm March 1990 if you remember, when it hit 85 for 3 straight days in mid March with everyone wearing shorts and staying here for Spring Break lol. And then the snow event in April. Was that transitioning to an El Nino too?

I mentioned April 1983 and April 1997, are there others that you know about? Was the one in the early part of the 20th century one of them- the one that dropped close to 20" in Philly in April? I wonder why NYC didn't get more in that one.

lol damn it I type with 2 fingers or else I would've beaten you with this.

I love this, Chris. And there's another fly in the ointment. I suspect you think we'll get a strong el nino next year? Good- we need to end these trash multiyear la ninas once and for all. Anyway aren't strong el ninos preceded by late season snowstorms in the previous Spring? April 1982 and April 1997 being cases in point.

Our Groundhog said winter would end early. No one cares about some punk Groundhog in Rednecksville, USA lol. I think most of us are fine if we get one big snowstorm next week and then let Spring come in.

Don is moderate considered anything less than 8"? or 6"? Do you have a break down of 6" and/or 8" snowstorms with +AO too? Thanks

Wow do you think that was the closest thing to March 1888-- since March 1888? Do you think such a band could ever happen here? Our part of Long Island never seems to get bands like that. How much did you get in Boxing Day in Long Beach? And I think you got over 30 inches in Jan 2016 in Long Beach too? Thats what the average total was in SW Nassau.

We got Jan 2016 which was a better storm than that fish Nemo

um most of New York City did get around a foot of snow.

as I just stated I dont even care what Manhattan gets, most of the people who live in the city live in Brooklyn and Queens and both got double digits and a foot or more of snow. We just need to stop being fixated on Central Park for snowfall amounts and temperatures.

I thought you said the freak double low thing prevented Manhattan from having a big snowstorm? +AO wouldn't have mattered and Forky would have been right if it wasn't for that. I'm only going to isolate it to Manhattan because Brooklyn and Queens did well in the storm. But you always hear people whining because they are obsessed with Central Park for some odd reason.

People need to stop being fixated so much on Central Park. The majority of people who live in the city live in Brooklyn and Queens and they both had double digits. I've never lived in Manhattan and never wanted to live in Manhattan, it's a place to work not a place to live in.