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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
what went wrong is they got the forecast wrong lol, overreliance on unreliable models for our loss. -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Feb 1989 predicted to be 6-8 but it was all virga, 20 inches ACY, 10 inches PHL and 2-5" on the eastern end of LI, nothing west of ISP. Dec 1989 also predicted to be a 6-8 event in a historically cold month but it warmed up during the storm and we got 90% rain lol -
yes a similar thing happened in 10-11 but January was much snowier and colder that time.
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This is a great thing hopefully now people will start doing some actual thinking instead of being enso fundamentalists, which is why long range forecasts have always bene so inaccurate.
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this is a lot better than the "colder" arctic shots of the 80s, we have much more snow than we did back then because the arctic shots dont cover the entire nation and theres an active storm track on their boundaries.
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a few years ago (also in a "la nina") we had four snowstorms in March and one in April.
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I think the 11 year cycle will be more likely than late season cold- 1977 might be a better analog if you're going to use the 70s.
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forecasting based on ENSO was the reason long range forecasts are SO inaccurate- I hope we've all learned our lesson!
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didnt we also have this a few years ago in March and early April as well as back in 1955-56? I think it's high time we stop thinking in el nino la nina terms, there's a lot more important things going on
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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
because that historically has happened several times, the mixing only happens after most of the snow has already fallen and that area has the highest precip totals which matters more than like 20% mixing (if that). It's not that unusual, that's why coastal Central NJ jackpots so often. -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Should've trusted that -5 AO over what models were showing a few days ago -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
what time is the heaviest snow supposed to occur? This is really starting to remind you of the first storm in Feb 1994 isn't it? -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
No I just mean I dont want to shoot at ISO 5000 to get nice images lol. I thought the better accumulations at night thing only happens when we're past March 15th lol. -
a good chance that we get our 4th 6"+ snowfall of the season (going by JFK numbers) what's the most 6" + snowfalls either the park or one of the local airports has seen in a season?
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the storm crept up on us from the south! People talking about arctic cold widespread across the CONUS need to look up the Winter of 1979! It was a sea of blue from sea to shining sea!
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Maybe up there the snow stays clean, but I rather like old snow getting eradicated and replaced by new. Thats why 1995-96 was my favorite snowfall season. I just dont like weeks old snow sticking around, it looks dirty after about a week.
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What about my favorite Jan 1985?
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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Does this sound similar to Dec 2020 to you? Earlier with the heavy snows, which is nice (I like to have them during the day, that makes it very photogenic! -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
no I was talking about the ranges at my two homes lol, one is on Long Island the other is in the Poconos -
hmm weird, the sea breeze got to JFK? I thought it was at least 50 there
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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Thanks! So basically 6-10 for one and 7-15 for the other, nice! -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
whats the high end amount for the other map (around Allentown and Mt Pocono) -
Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
thats right and thats despite getting missed by the big two footer at the beginning of the month that hit Toms River and south -
JFK hit 50, it was an awesome day we FINALLY had a day of sunshine. I'm so sick and tired of all the clouds, this aint Venus lol.
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Feb 18-19 long duration manageable snow and ice event
LibertyBell replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
yeah but it doesn't matter since it'll be a big snowstorm for us regardless.