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how much did we get on 12-11-93? I'm guessing not much since I only remember the late December snow event that year. We only had two all snow events in 93-94, the first event in late December and the final event in late March. Both were around 4" each

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/russia-economic-sanctions-wheat-oil/627004/?utm_source=pocket-newtab 1) The Green-Energy Revolution Goes Into Warp Speed Tech revolutions in the 21st century tend to be very fast. It took about a decade for the share of Americans with a smartphone to go from zero to 80 percent. But energy revolutions are lazier affairs, and the green-energy transition in particular has been torpid in the U.S. and Europe, which is perhaps surprising given the declining price of solar energy. The West has simply refused to build green-energy projects fast enough to decarbonize the grid. Russia’s war could accelerate the green revolution in two big ways. First, it will increase political pressure on the U.S. and European governments to reduce reliance on Russian oil and gas. (The U.S. has already said it will stop importing Russian energy, and Europe is considering a similar ban.) In the short term, countries will lean harder on spare oil and gas sources to keep prices down. But over time, the boycott of Russian energy could raise the price of thermal energy enough that it compels countries to deploy significantly more wind and solar projects. For years, anti-growth fears, antinuclear sentiment, and vague NIMBYism have stood in the way of green-energy construction. The urgency of an external threat could melt away some of those anxieties. “We can not talk about renewables revolution if getting a permit to build a wind park takes seven years,” said Kadri Simson, the European commissioner for energy. “It is time to treat these projects as being in the overriding public interest, because they are.” Second, rising energy prices will change consumer preferences, nudging more consumers away from gas-powered cars. Today less than 5 percent of the U.S. car market is fully electric. But the industry is pushing electric vehicles hard; nearly every automotive ad in the Super Bowl was for an EV. This marketing shift could combine with a painful spike in gas prices in a way that gets more Americans to buy EVs, which will encourage more automotive companies to invest in EV production, which could bring down the cost of EVs, which will increase demand. This possible shift from energy pain to energy progress has a historical precedent. In 1973, OPEC cut off the U.S. and other countries from access to its oil, raising gas prices. Although most Americans associate that period with economic stagnation, the crisis also led American car manufacturers to become more energy efficient. Actual fuel economy as measured in miles per gallon took off in 1973. Fifty years later, we could see the same dynamic play out: the shock of energy pain leading to decades of progress.

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/russia-economic-sanctions-wheat-oil/627004/?utm_source=pocket-newtab 1) The Green-Energy Revolution Goes Into Warp Speed Tech revolutions in the 21st century tend to be very fast. It took about a decade for the share of Americans with a smartphone to go from zero to 80 percent. But energy revolutions are lazier affairs, and the green-energy transition in particular has been torpid in the U.S. and Europe, which is perhaps surprising given the declining price of solar energy. The West has simply refused to build green-energy projects fast enough to decarbonize the grid. Russia’s war could accelerate the green revolution in two big ways. First, it will increase political pressure on the U.S. and European governments to reduce reliance on Russian oil and gas. (The U.S. has already said it will stop importing Russian energy, and Europe is considering a similar ban.) In the short term, countries will lean harder on spare oil and gas sources to keep prices down. But over time, the boycott of Russian energy could raise the price of thermal energy enough that it compels countries to deploy significantly more wind and solar projects. For years, anti-growth fears, antinuclear sentiment, and vague NIMBYism have stood in the way of green-energy construction. The urgency of an external threat could melt away some of those anxieties. “We can not talk about renewables revolution if getting a permit to build a wind park takes seven years,” said Kadri Simson, the European commissioner for energy. “It is time to treat these projects as being in the overriding public interest, because they are.” Second, rising energy prices will change consumer preferences, nudging more consumers away from gas-powered cars. Today less than 5 percent of the U.S. car market is fully electric. But the industry is pushing electric vehicles hard; nearly every automotive ad in the Super Bowl was for an EV. This marketing shift could combine with a painful spike in gas prices in a way that gets more Americans to buy EVs, which will encourage more automotive companies to invest in EV production, which could bring down the cost of EVs, which will increase demand. This possible shift from energy pain to energy progress has a historical precedent. In 1973, OPEC cut off the U.S. and other countries from access to its oil, raising gas prices. Although most Americans associate that period with economic stagnation, the crisis also led American car manufacturers to become more energy efficient. Actual fuel economy as measured in miles per gallon took off in 1973. Fifty years later, we could see the same dynamic play out: the shock of energy pain leading to decades of progress.

Don I'm going to put an article in banter that you might be interested in, feel free to check it out.

okay but none yet for NYC or JFK? Hopefully this line coming through will change that.

yep that's what I figured. It's very rare when they don't weaken.

all forecasts busted so no measurable snowfall in NYC or any of the airports, Don, so far anyway?

I'd say about 50% of that will hold together for us, let's wait and see.

yeah as in garbage cans banging around outside

meh, I don't see why that wouldn't also dry up over the mountains before it gets here.

isn't that for the DC/BWI area though? How will that make it up here?

perchance? that's not a word you normally use lol

we are east of him but it sucks to live in the concrete jungle of Manhattan we have 26 inches on the season here, right at normal.

whats prolonged? do you mean it lasts an hour?

with all the complaining this isn't all that bad, visibility is reduced with the snow falling pretty decently.

it's actually snowing at a decent clip here now and very powdery and the sky has gotten dark

I heard the Canadian was the best model this year with all those great upgrades.

We actually need AI to run our governments instead of dumb politicians who are beholden to corporations, but thats another story. I would support AI running everything over any human. In regards to banding, I find that really annoying because for some reason (I'm sure it's not chance because it happens EVERY TIME) the south shore here is always in the sucker zone for snow. The ONLY time it doesn't happen is when we have moderate or stronger el ninos and a big coastal storm (not necessarily strong) hitting an arctic front.... aka, Feb 1983, PD2 and Jan 2016. It also happened one time in a la nina.... Jan 1996. Are those the only storms where you found that banding wasn't important and the whole area (meaning our local area) was buried with 20"+ of snow?

well the snow flakes are bigger now and there's more of them but this is still very light snow.

lol it's all snow here now, but the "all snow" consists of about 10 snow flakes falling every minute. I can type faster than the amount of snowflakes hitting the ground every minute and I type with 2 fingers.

NAM output is best cut by half or even two thirds.

so does all of that snow in PA just dry up before it gets here? I guess we have the mountains and downslope to blame for all of this then- hard to believe just 2,000 ft mountains could cause all that precip to dry up.

Do you think we could fix these problems by not making models accessible to the general public and only make them accessible to mets with 4 year degrees in meteorology (I dont like the fake mets with degrees in other things or fly by night diplomas either) Also, I see that even our heralded TV mets (real mets) got this one wrong....Lee Goldberg had the entire NYC area and western LI in 1-3" of snow and showed an output of 2.8" at NYC....obviously that's not going to happen.

Yes unfortunately, having a front come through is a sign that the storm was too far to the west. It's actually a sleet snow mix here, but obviously no sticking is occurring and the sky is brightening.

it's still sleeting here hard and pounding my windows. but the sky has gotten brighter and there was never a complete changeover to snow.