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Nothing seems to have really changed from the past few winters so I tend to agree.

1982-83 or 2015-16 are both far preferable to this.

the fast Pacific jet is more to blame than luck. It would be luck if this hadn't happened before, but it has.

if we go by the last time it happened, it's going to be a couple of decades, with a few good years interspersed in between.

we're in a downward cycle for coastal snowstorms anyway. Several such cold and dry Januarys happened during the 80s, we're back to that pattern again.

Any idea if there is a cyclical pattern to benchmark KU storms Chris? I ask because we saw very few of them during the 70s, 80s and early 90s period too. I can count the number on two hands, actually. January 1978, February 1978, February 1979, January 1982, April 1982, February 1983, January 1987. Most of these were clustered around the late 70s and early 80s, outside of that period there was only the January 1987 benchmark KU. And then we saw a huge uptick beginning in the mid 90s and that period lasted through 2018, like you said. What could be behind this cyclic pattern of benchmark KUs? The AMO? *note the 70s-80s period also had notable historic Deep South snowstorms, as we've seen again beginning with the early 2020s.

It can be warm in February and still snow (see February 2018), I think we'll see at least one storm as good as this one, that is, at least one storm that gives us 2-4 inches of snow.

*around* could be like 50 miles north of us lol

Let's see if NYC can even get to 10" lol

This week being the coldest week of winter is probably correct.

and 3.5-3.8 were commonplace in southern Queens so JFK might have had a bit of an undermeasurement.

la ninas after el ninos are nearly always good, but multiple year la ninas usually give us diminishing returns, plus there is a lag affect with solar max, the next 2 years will likely have below normal snowfall.

And even this next snowstorm coming up for the Deep South has a comparison to the 80s. December 1989 that month we love to hate was one of the coldest Decembers on record, was there any December ever colder than that one? The only one I can think of is possibly December 1917? Well December 1989 had a historic snowstorm in the Deep South too-- Charleston SC got 8 inches of now right by the ocean in that one! In December 1989, the cold was far more extensive and long lasting than any cold we have seen since (in December anyway), the only colder months I can think of were January 1994, January 2004 and February 2015. I remember that Philly had something like 36 consecutive days below freezing! We love to hate December 1989 but we must also respect it for how truly historic the cold was that month. Fringe winter months are interesting when they are historically cold, another one was March 1960, which was as cold as our average January is now. Being in the snowy 60s era, it had one of our top KU snowstorms! March 1960, January 1977, December 1989, January 1994, January 2004, February 2015 were all double digits below normal temperatures. If they were snowy or not depends on what era they were in.

January 2016 was definitely snowier because of the warming temperatures increasing the moisture content of the atmosphere.

But if we are comparing period to period, so let's say 1970-1999 is like 2019-today, then our snowfall averages have definitely gone down (and the winters have gotten warmer) since that earlier bad period. On the other hand, the 2000-2018 period was a lot snowier than the 1955-1969 period, so it does look like the extremes are getting more extreme.

they lowball summertime temps too and their wind speed measurements....

the south shore got about the same, a little under 4"

3.8" at JFK, Walt? Sounds about right, I measured just under 4"

LGA is in Queens though, they don't have the same weather as Central Park does.

I hope she gets better quickly, best wishes my friend.

Here's what I found out about why snow doesn't accumulate near the lines and numbers on the football field https://www.quora.com/How-do-the-lines-on-the-football-field-stay-snow-free Keeping the lines on a football field snow-free typically involves a combination of techniques and equipment. Here are some common methods: Field Heating Systems: Many professional and college football fields are equipped with heating systems beneath the turf. These systems can warm the ground and help prevent snow from accumulating on the field. Snow Removal Equipment: Grounds crews often use specialized snow removal equipment, such as snow plows or blowers, to clear the lines and the field quickly after a snowfall. Field Paint: The paint used for marking lines can be formulated to resist snow accumulation and can also be more visible against a snowy background. Maintaining Turf Conditions: Ensuring that the turf is in good condition can help with drainage and reduce snow accumulation. Proper maintenance practices can keep the grass healthy and more resistant to snow. Regular Monitoring: Grounds crews monitor weather conditions closely and may take preemptive actions, such as applying salt or sand, to prevent snow from sticking to the lines. These methods help ensure that the lines remain visible and the field is playable, even during winter weather conditions.

might be sleet here, whatever it is is making a loud gravelly kind of sound on my windows. the Park and airports can get to 3 inches but not more than that.

The snow in Philly has become much larger, dendrites blowing around, it must be in the 20s down there now, the visibility is nearly zero on the football field!

wow 6-10 inches from Staten Island to southern Brooklyn, Queens and the south shore, that was some week of winter weather with 2 significant snowstorms.

wow the bottom really fell out of the predicted average, Don, now down to 29.5! When was the last time we had a monthly mean below 29.5, Don?