LibertyBell

wow, we didn't reach 60 even once during actual winter when was the last time we had a February that never reached 50-- was it February 2015?

I think 30 minutes ahead for everyone all year would be a good compromise.

JM complained about the lack of storms at Penn State when we were getting big storms over here. Haven't they gone back to higher snowfall again? Storms like February 2021 should have been great for them.

the 60s were drier and there were more years like that, we might be cycling back to drier weather

look up 1962-63 and 1967-68 it was also a dry decade so we might be returning to drier years now

How about just put the clocks 30 minutes ahead and leave them there? Splitting the difference.

I thought February was averaging around 32 degrees which is slightly below normal

No thank you, winter is too long as it is and you must be crazy, cold dark windy is absolutely useless, real humans need warm sunshine

I think our highest temps were between Christmas and New Years weren't they? Those severe thunderstorms with hail New Years Eve should have been taken as a sign.

hmm Japan was also very cold and they got record snows

the question is why this happened and why was the cold air centered over the central and eastern US

JFK might be windier-- what kt speed do you have for them Walt?

JFK is windier than either-- 55 mph now I wonder what their maximum gust was?

That was the storm which really differentiated our area from New England. I was thinking our area should be named interior northeast but that doesn't cover NYC and Long Island, so maybe it should just be called the tristate area.

10.2 wow

Yes, we should do the temperatures too. The one from the early 30s might actually be warmer than the one from the early 50s.

No access to MA? Does that mean no access to Mid Atlantic?

they weren't so happy about it in 09-10 I'm sure you remember the snowicane in late February when NYC and you both got over 20 inches and they got zilch lol.

Thanks Tony, the three periods are as follows: 1 (5 year average) 11.8 2 (6 year average) 14.6 3 (4 year average) 11.1

I did the calculation for the 6 year period during the early 50s and compared it to our current 6 year period, the current period *wins* but just barely 13.9 vs 14.6 for the 6 year period during the early 50s.

wow, overall just going by 6 season snowfall average, that might be even lower than our current 6 season snowless streak!

Definitely-- New York (city or state) isn't part of the Mid Atlantic and I wouldn't include the northern half of PA or northern half of NJ in it either. Not sure what I would call it actually-- just the tristate area? CT can be grouped with New England.

Chris when was the last time all the local airports (LGA, JFK, EWR, ISP) plus the park (NYC) had 15.0 or less inches of snow for 3 years in a row or more? Has it ever happened before?

Tony whats the actual average/mean temperature for the month for these locations-- how could NYC be at -0.8 but JFK is at +3.0, is it because of higher mins from the westerly winds?

1958 - The greatest snowstorm of the mid 20th century struck the northeastern U.S. The storm produced 30 inches of snow in interior New England, including more than 19 inches in 24 hours at the Boston Airport. The same storm produced up to three feet of snow in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region, with 14 inches at Washington D.C., and 15.5 inches at Baltimore MD. The storm resulted in 43 deaths and 500 million dollars damage over the Middle Atlantic Coast States. (David Ludlum) 1958: From the 14th through the 17th, one of the most significant snowstorms of the mid 20th century struck the northeastern U.S. The storm produced 30 inches of snow in the interior of New England, including more than 19 inches in 24 hours at the Boston Airport. The same storm produced up to three feet of snow in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region, with 14 inches in Washington D.C. and 15.5 inches in Baltimore, Maryland. The storm resulted in 43 deaths and 500 million dollars damage over the Middle Atlantic Coast States. What I find interesting with this storm is there was close to 20 inches in Boston and 14-16 inches in DC and BWI over three days== and yet only around 6 inches in NYC but double digits at the airports? What happened to cause this outcome-- was this a stemwinder? It would be very interesting to see a snowfall accumulation map or KU map from this storm!