Maestrobjwa

I'm right here not to tell ya that he's great but to tell ya you're blaming the wrong person this time. That's where we disagree. Elias, Elias, Elias! All this is his baby (Cal said a couple weeks ago that "[Elias is the architect"] His philosophy in FA is what got us here. Now...if they don't fire Elias this off-season and he screws stuff up even more...THEN that'll be on ownership--because they have the opportunity to start completely fresh now. New manager, new GM!

I still trust nothing coming out of a Ravens 2nd round. Too much bad luck, lol So far only O-Lineman seem to work out once a decade! He would be the first defensive player...

I think that dude is either in denial and just says "la la la can't hear you", or is just doing that to troll...been the habit pretty much since this tough stretch began. All we have to go is what's happened the last 9 (and likely 10) years. The reality is just what you stated. Now whether or not we get out of the PDO cycle and we can put together a better 10-year stretch remains to be seen...but at least for now this is where we at.

My goodness that cycle lasted for 30 years?? So "decadal" isn't so much a literal decade but just however many decades it lasts? (I'm sure you would've loved it back then...lol Although the 60s were snowy for the east)

Time for a new approach this winter: If any model run shows something that hasn't happened in 10 years...ignore it

Hey at least we could check out early and just ignore this altogether till next hear, lol But oy...it amazes me how the snow completely fell off after Jan 16. I had been under the impression that change in climo was more gradual...but it's like somebody flipped a switch in 16, and the clippers disappeared and so did some of our ways of getting snow. I get changing climo but I don't understand why it happened so fast. I wish someone would study what exactly happened that year and why every year since has done, well....what we've seen.

When did it bite them in the butt? And does 2-3 weeks really make that big of a difference?

Isn't the whole preserving rookie eligibility for higher prospects a common practice in the league in general, though? (Hence why "September callups" became a thing?) Why are some of you acting like everybody doesn't do the same thing come August? Lol Teams always wanna preserve that.

I hope the gfs is right. I'll be reenacting something outside on grass next Saturday...

And out goes Charlie...to the Detroit Tigers!

Only thing that concerns me is that it's a foot...injuries in that never seem to act right for awhile after injury, smh

We've been doing pretty good the last few years...but that kind of thing is always a spin of the wheel...

Prospect? Man we'd barely get a speck!! We'd have to trade him for cash inconsiderations...

Yeah you're probably right. I just saw one of those articles, lol If there's plenty of control, it would make sense!

The only thing is that woulf make us a buyer--and we aren't exactly in a position to be that for this trade deadline. Now I could see a scenario where we package some of the prospects we get this year to buy something in the off-season.

Dang...missed out on all of that, lol

This. Talk about ownership responsibility...NOW they have a huge decision to make this off-season. If they decide to keep him and things get worse, that's gonna be on them too. I also don't have much confidence that Elias can fix this. We need to have a fresh start from GM down, imo Now funny thing about last year's trade deadline...what if Rogers really does work out? That would make it not nearly as bad, lol Efflin was also a good move but we got unlucky with his injuries (but he certainly shut it down in the playoffs).

But that's what I mean, though--they gained full control around June--just before last season started teetering. So realistically it's not like they could come in just before the second half drop off and sign everybody real quick, lol So really this past off-season was the first real opportunity to extend somebody. But...again was the timing for both sides right?

And those have been rare. I looked at the list...what didn't happen was those players being signed after their rookie season. Longest I saw on cbssports was a Year 3 extension. I'm assuming that's what you meant by what you said about Gunnar that they should've signed him in his? Now if you make that case ya gotta remember Rubenstein was not in control then. That was on Angelos They were in full control this past off-season. But the more I think about it...the timing wasn't right. Here's what I mean: Adley: Terrible second half Gunnar: Bad second half (errors, sloppy play) Westy: Bad second half because of injury. Now...if you were any one of them, would you wanna negotiate after that kind of a dip? I meansure the team could reach out, but why would any of those three?

Neither am I because I think your argument is illogical. It's just not been possible or feasible. Boras. Does. Not. Do. Early. Extensions. If it were so easy you tell me why practically NOBODY has done with his players. You answer me that and I'll concede.

Because Scott Boras has no willingness, lol

Unwilling? Think about the situation: Gunnar, Westy, and Holliday are all Scott Boras clients. Boras does not do early extensions, and his clients follow that everytime. Bobby Witt Jr. is not a Boras client. Any early extension you hear of? That's not a Boras client--I don't know why some of ya can't understand that. And for Adley--would you really wanna negotiate an extension this past off-season with how your second half was last year? So that's on hold too. So who do we have...Cowser? Too early! Tell me what of that is the (still new) ownership's fault.

Err...yeah it kinda does because there's still like 3 years left on his rookie deal, man! And I do not believe Adley is going to wanna negotiate any early extension right now given his struggles. He is a piece of the young core that you don't want to get rid of unless you're sure he's a bust or whatever (for me next year will be telling). And why can't we can have Adley and Basallo together? Basallo is not gonna be ready to be the main catcher from the jump, imo

I don't think that means they've given up on Adley yet. (And the 1st pick is likely to become an OF, imo). Now I'm thinking they eventually alternate Basallo and Adley at DH...

Coaching. I am becoming more and more convinced that this is on the coaching and the organizational philosophy of hitting. They need to clean house in that area with the exception of Britton, Chirinos, and Mabry. We need a complete reset--I refuse to believe this is on the players suddenly not being good. May 2022 to mid-2024 wasn't some fluke, imo