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Possibly...but we see we can still snow when it starts at 34 degrees if it's heavy enough.. I mean the coastal gets going sooner we would've had a foot even in a marginal setup. Have a strong storm like that in a Niño where it's in a better spot a boom. So I don't think we're that far gone yet. (at least I hope not!) All it takes is a window a la 2016. And even in 2018-19 there was ample cold in January where the rest of y'all south of me got a foot! (Ack, lol)

Yeah not the only path...but historically aside from the once in a generation 1996 (and 2006 for a MECS), haven't the rest of the top 10 snows come during Niños?

Oops! Somebody here responded to the wrong one then--because the most recent post before mine was made in here, lol

Confident that it's our best chance, yes. Confident it's definitely gonna happen? Nobody can be, lol But as I stated above...easing PDO, maybe more blocking, better chance? We shall see...

Absolutely agree. We've seen the ways a niño can fail. But obviously, no other enso state is gonna work for a MECS or HECS anymore so it's all we got, lol

I never said it was a given. I'm just saying we need to get one next year or else we will be waiting for awhile longer. @EastCoast NPZ Yes I'm aware. But I'm hoping an easing of the PDO and Chill's theory of blocking episodes coming around after a long hiatus has some merit. And again, nothing is guaranteed. But no matter what, a strong enough Niño still gives us our best chance of all the enso states, so we root for it. @CAPE Psu said something a few weeks ago about early indications of east based, but I don't know where he saw that.

Nobody goes in here, lolol

So let me tell ya...I had assumed all this time that that's what it meant, BUT since I see it abbreviated here with capital letters sometimes, I wanted to make sure there wasn't a technical term I was missing, haha

What does POS stand for?

Someone else in the house had the 6:30 news on healined by the snow...I was just starting to feel a little better too dang it. This miss ruined the whole dang day. All time Nina fail--next time anybody asks why I complain about ninas I'll just say February 2026. We (Baltimore) are the only ones between NC and Boston that haven't gotten a foot in 11 years and nobody should blame us for complaining from now until the next one. Baaa snowbug. P.S. No one else is in the Panic Room. If there's nobody there there's no catharsis, lol

Yep. So we need this one to deliver...neutrals don't seem to work anymore either (unless the PDO has been the issue...that SEEMS to finally be relaxing after 8-9 years of wreaking havoc)

Alright somebody give me some good news about the Niño next year. @psuhoffman where did you see early indications of it being east-based? I will say this: If we do not get a MECS or HECS next year, we are probably waiting until the end of the decade when the next niño comes unless we can get a double-dip, no?

Kvetch? Lol

Tbh I'm not salty about that in particular. I didn't mind the suggestion at all and I honored it. I only just mentioned the Nina here because I didn't think it mattered now that the storm is basically over. But if they want me to still not talk about it then I won't. No problem at all. But overall? After this fiasco I got every right to rant about ninas sometimes once we get back to LR discussion. They're horrible. ...I'm just salty in general. This whole miss has me feeling some type of way and I don't know why. It's infuriating and I wish it didn't bother me as much as it is.

Ah so the circuit court closes TODAY but I have jury duty TOMORROW. All I needed was a day earlier darn it! That just makes this even worse, lol I am PRAYING I don't get selected for a case...I've got a concert Friday and I can't have practice time sucked up by being stuck in court! Can't reschedule because I fear it'll be a day next month that'll interfere with school gigs (can't mske those up). So again...praying

I don't forget certain misses easily. Never forgot Dec 2018 in when NC got over a foot and we smoked cirrus. This one is right up there but for some scenic couple inches--that saved it from complete infamy, lol Looks nice, actually!

Right, lol And people told me and others to stop talking about Nina stuff when it literally drove the boat. Miller B too late. There's no more "lower shore sadness". 3 blizzards in 10 years while we get scraps ain't struggling. I made this thread saying "There's no way..." and sure enough it happened....smh But we should never believe a setup like this will ever do anymore than it did today--no matter what the models say. Terrible.

No it's because coastals in Ninas simply develop too late because they're NS driven. Nina=dominant NS. That's why 1996 was once in a generation because the anomalous blocking pushed it so far south that it bombed out in time.

Yeah this is y'all's. Completely ignoring this one, lol

They and the NWS kinda whiffed on this one. Never should wave been a warning in the first place, imo. Never believed 5-10!

Although...is this like their 3rd blizzard in the last decade?

Oh dang that the expectation for you area has dropped that much? Oof. And yeah what is that, like 3 or 4 beach blizzards in one decade? I'd like to know what if any precedent there is for that.

It's mentally unhealthy that they makes us feel better, lol

Or perhaps just s tad nitpicky in terms of impact. If this snowfall would've been 3" instead of 1.5" I'm not sure it makes that much of a difference. Now, the argument is that losing an inch here or there adds up in the final snowfall tally of the season I can understand that. P.S. I think we should all get a salty pass tonight...I mean the hecs is just NE...

I actually did log off for awhile as I had a church-related gig