Yea, I wasn't trying to assuage any angst by making that comparison Just pointing it out. I made the mistake of including seasons in the January composite, like 2001-2002, because of that expected PT regime mid month.....but as it turned out, the cold dwarfed it so much it was a mistake. That is why I busted too warm. I feel like diagnosing the pattern is easier than the making the temp composite maps.