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now thats hot!!
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no idea but it might be a combination of heat + dryness
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E PA/NJ/DE Summer 2025 Obs/Discussion
RedSky replied to Hurricane Agnes's topic in Philadelphia Region
A real possibility of going from a Friday to a Friday without seeing partial sun. Shouldn't be possible in a summer month. -
Up to 68 - 70 in reach
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Steintastic!
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Makes sense to me, and I've made this argument in the past. If you read weather records from that era, the general consensus was warming from past eras. I think this is supported by longer-range temperature records and reconstructions. But it does call into question the use of this era as some sort of special baseline. The true baseline may, in fact, have been a continuation of the natural cooling trend that had generally characterized the period since the Holocene Thermal Maximum - perhaps to levels even colder than those of the so-called Little Ice Age. Granted the degree of warming at that time was a tiny fraction of what we see today, so it wouldn't make a huge difference. But this paper would suggest the cumulative human impact is at least slightly higher than commonly reported from temperature datasets which use that period of history as the baseline of a natural climate.
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Euro has 92/72 for 2AM Wednesday morning for the city haha
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Euro still 106 on Tuesday for the city
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Yes, I saw that. Mold-city! I ended up getting 3 of these at BJ's: https://www.bjs.com/product/midea-smart-8000-btu-window-air-conditioner/3000000000004840251/ They were on sale for $189 until this past Sunday. Not the ideal solution, but they are working better than the 2 Honeywell portables and 1 Zenith/LG window unit I had that is from 2002 that seemed to be on their last legs this summer. Will see how they all hold up next week. The inverter window units looked a little to complicated for me to install at this time - I'm not that handy. Hopefully what I have will work until I'm ready to get mini-splits or something similar.
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June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Just ran that by it. It suggests a combination of temperatures near 110F, 75 mph winds and extremely low relatively humidity likely desiccated the crops. It suggests such conditions could wilt and brown the corn, causing drought or freeze-like damage to the crop. The strong winds would have also damaged the crop and caused more heat damage than would occur in a still atmosphere. -
Another consecutive wet month in the making.... Wettest year on record coming soon for many by the time Winter comes, even though we're barely halfway through 2025.
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when I left the house at 4:30 this morning we had a bit of light rain falling
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How would that even happen? Doesn't cotton burn at a temperature similar to paper? Like 400+ degrees?
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what about the burnt fields of cotton?
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June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike
TheClimateChanger replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I ran this scenario by AI and it concluded the temperature could have reached no more than about 100-110F. It said the warming from a heat burst [compressional heating] would be no greater than the dry adiabatic warming rate, and that a surface temperature of 140F would require an upper atmospheric temperature that would be implausibly high. It suggested the burst thermometers were likely the result of instrument failure due to the sudden change in temperature. Not sure if any atmospheric scientist might want to weigh in. -
Looks like that building was basically a 'dam' with water going thru the windows AND not sure if that was flood water or coming from another source, over the roof at one point, crazy!
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if you're talking about air conditioning the combo with the higher humidity is probably worse because of how they work (condensation systems) 2010 with 101 degrees and 45 dew point was much easier to handle than 2019 which had 99 degrees and a heat index of 117 (I forgot what the dew point was those 2 weekend days.)
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Both are bad, we need the dew points in the 50s or lower, regardless of the temperature.
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Which combo is easier on climate control systems?
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The Inferno Model is out to 42. Let's see if it backed off at all from the oven like temps
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I mean if it’s 94/78 that’s a 110 heat index which is quite dangerous. 104/68 is a 111 heat index.
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this reminds of coastal huggers that make it rain at the coast while it snows inland. That is what this kind of heat reminds me of.
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2002 I agree with but not 1988 we had much more backdoor fronting going on in 1988. It was hot no doubt but not on the level of the summers at the top (1993, 2010, etc.) We need a way to measure heatwaves the way we measure KU, coverage counts with KU events too. Thats why the top two events are March 1993 and January 1996.
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but we don't know how reliable those thermometers are or if they meet NWS criteria, it's like reading snowfall reports from a PNS. Plus for the heat to actually be historic it should cover more of the area like it did in 2010 and 2011.
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Agreed andI had posted as long or longer stretched of heat since the 40s/50s including the 1988 and 2002 heatwaves for other parts of the forum.