Feb 22nd/23rd "There's no way..." Obs Thread

[stormy]

5 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Next tell him your salary!

0000  I don't play the  foolish games that your illk are obsessed with. You are illustrating a dismal start to life..   We need to be encouraging a reasonable start to life, not encouraging radical lunacy.    Not today, but 10 years into the future, you will understand....................    

[SnowenOutThere]

2 minutes ago, stormy said:

0000  I don't play the  foolish games that your illk are obsessed with. You are illustrating a dismal start to life..   We need to be encouraging a reasonable start to life, not encouraging radical lunacy.    Not today, but 10 years into the future, you will understand....................    

thank you so much. This is now my all time favorite post on this entire forum. You are truly a master at work and I mean that non sarcastically. Between the random zeros and dots it’s a modern day masterpiece. 

[WesternFringe]

1 hour ago, stormy said:

AS I said earlier today, I cannot guarantee the accuracy of the report because I did not make the measurement . You and I both want accurate measurement and reporting. I am with you 100% on that.

We seem to have a mentally challenged  intruder. Psu ,who is  obsessed with global warming and a huge decrease of D.C. snowfall.    Psu , I am very sorry to disappoint you, but I totally agree that earlier reported snowfall totals cannot be trusted. 

YOU are calling psu mentally challenged? Jfc, why did I ever unmute you?  
 

My fault, everyone. 

[psuhoffman]

26 minutes ago, WesternFringe said:

YOU are calling psu mentally challenged? Jfc, why did I ever unmute you?  
 

My fault, everyone. 

I know I shouldn’t stir the pot, but I was bored and it’s soooo easy with him. 

[North Balti Zen]

Providence, RI ended up with 37.9"...that's bonkers. Easily a record for them. 

[stormy]

On 2/24/2026 at 11:11 AM, WesternFringe said:

Data from satellites and NOAA doesn't support it at all.  Most of the NWS snowfall reports come from NWS Employees, trained spotters, Park/ Forest Srvc, etc.  Notice the one outlier on the map?  It isn't an official NWS number.  It is the number reported by the resort that has an incentive to over inflate its numbers.

We are not hopeless because we use our brains and logic.  Do you really think it is realistic that the only measurement of 15" of snow in Virginia came from a 3000' mountain in Nelson County?  Not the 4500' mountains of northern and western Augusta County? Not the northern Shenandoah Valley?  Do you think it is plausible that Wintergreen was the only measurement (outside of WV) of 15" of snow that is southwest of greater Philadelphia?

Finally, I will just say this.  My coworker Monica and her husband Chris live up there in a condominium and they told me they got 6", maybe 7" at the most.

https://data.usatoday.com/projects/snowfall-accumulation-tracker/index.html

https://www.weather.gov/lwx/pnsmap?type=snow

@hstorm

 

I'm very sorry, but 4500 ft.  mts. in northern and western Augusta County do not exist.................

You goofed on that.

[stormy]

23 hours ago, psuhoffman said:

@WesternFringe  There is 0 chance that 15" report is accurate, for all the reasons you eloquently laid out in a logical rational scientific way.  There is also a 0% change that stormy will accept any of those rational logical arguments.  

Your such a bore with your illogical tripe.

  0% chance that an NWS report is accurate??? You just destroyed credibility for your "beating a dead horse" tirades about D.C. snowfall collapse.

Can you please define "0% change"

[psuhoffman]

3 hours ago, stormy said:

Your such a bore with your illogical tripe.

  0% chance that an NWS report is accurate??? You just destroyed credibility for your "beating a dead horse" tirades about D.C. snowfall collapse.

cool

[WesternFringe]

6 hours ago, stormy said:

I'm very sorry, but 4500 ft.  mts. in northern and western Augusta County do not exist.................

You goofed on that.

Okay bro, whatever you need to tell yourself.  Elliots Knob is 4463’, not 4500’. I was a whole 37’ off.  It is almost like I rounded for simplicity sake. 

Also, I was a hell of a lot closer than you were when you called Wintergreen 3000’ when it is actually 3515’.  That is 515’ off!!!

You goofed way bigger than me on that!  

And I was dumb enough to believe you and regurgitated that in one of my replies.  Lol

Finally, the unofficial non NWS report was from 7:11, not 8:00 am as you said.  As long as we are getting nit picky.  You goofed on that, too. Lol

[stormy]

13 hours ago, WesternFringe said:

Okay bro, whatever you need to tell yourself.  Elliots Knob is 4463’, not 4500’. I was a whole 37’ off.  It is almost like I rounded for simplicity sake. 

Also, I was a hell of a lot closer than you were when you called Wintergreen 3000’ when it is actually 3515’.  That is 515’ off!!!

You goofed way bigger than me on that!  

And I was dumb enough to believe you and regurgitated that in one of my replies.  Lol

Finally, the unofficial non NWS report was from 7:11, not 8:00 am as you said.  As long as we are getting nit picky.  You goofed on that, too. Lol

Yeah, you and I both like to round off,  but, that 37 ft. can be the difference between 6 inches and 15 inches........ Just joshing!!!!   Yes, I rounded off Wintergreen to 3000 when actuality says 2512 - 3515.  Holly River in central W.Va. that reported 22.5 inches Sunday is only 2211 ft.

Have you ever hiked to the top of Elliot?   That's quite a climb from 688. Not quite so much from Hite Hollow.

Well, I gotta run and start brainstorming Mondays threat.  I go to press at 4 pm.  Gotta chase that 90% from 4 days out.

[Hoosweather]

Hey guys so I’m very late to this as I’ve been awaiting approval of my account but having been at Wintergreen for the storm last Sunday, and having been a long time reader of this board and a poster back in the old days, I just had to get a new account to weigh in. The mountain absolutely received over a foot of snow, and I have no doubt of the 15 inch report. 
 

At 7 am we already had 3-4 inches on the ground. It then snowed the next 12 hours straight with snow becoming heavy by noon and from 2-6pm coming down at a rate of 1-2 inches an hour easy. I cleared my car off to try to leave the mountain at 3 and by 3:30 it had another inch on it. It was that kind of snow. 
 

We ended up not being able to leave the mountain as at around 3:45 we got stuck on the main road down and they then announced that road, and all roads on the property, were closed. We were able to turn around and get back to our place to spend the night. Everyone at the ski resort itself had to actually stay on the property until roads reopened at 6.

I didn’t officially measure during the day- we Skiied all morning and by evening the winds were incredible, but, as noted, at 7am it was already 3-4 inches deep and that was well before the really heavy snow that followed. It’s laughable to say the mountain only got 6-7 inches- there was easily that by midday! Our neighbor did measure in the evening and reported 13 inches. Resort of course said 15 by morning. I’ve been through a lot of big snows. The rate of snow up there from noon to 6 ranks amongst the heaviest I’ve ever seen. It was a remarkable micro-climate moment I’ll never forget! I’ll share some pictures in a bit when I get a little more time.

 

 

[North Balti Zen]

Welcome!

[Hoosweather]

Not letting me add multiple photos but this is a pic from beside our place at around 2pm. This is before the heaviest snow which fell from then till about 6. Now it also was windy but that’s roughly 8-10 on the seats already. Long and short- as crazy as it sounds (and in the valley 3000 feet below they got a dusting!)- this actually happened at Wintergreen. I don’t know if it was a perfect spot for upslope or what- but it was easily over a foot. Incredible to witness!

[psuhoffman]

Wow kinda crazy how someone that just happened to be at WIntergreen just happened to join right now and their first post is about this.  Crazy  huh 

[Chris78]

6 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Wow kinda crazy how someone that just happened to be at WIntergreen just happened to join right now and their first post is about this.  Crazy  huh 

What a coincidence 

[Hoosweather]

Are you guys serious? It’s just snow. It’ll be ok. FYI I used to be a member here under username rmcwahoo. It snowed a lot at Wintergreen. And lots of people were there for it and documented it. I don’t know how to help ya around that one. Also don’t know why it would bother anyone?

Just to drive you even crazier here’s a cool pic from the next morning

[WesternFringe]

2 hours ago, Hoosweather said:

Not letting me add multiple photos but this is a pic from beside our place at around 2pm. This is before the heaviest snow which fell from then till about 6. Now it also was windy but that’s roughly 8-10 on the seats already. Long and short- as crazy as it sounds (and in the valley 3000 feet below they got a dusting!)- this actually happened at Wintergreen. I don’t know if it was a perfect spot for upslope or what- but it was easily over a foot. Incredible to witness!

My friends who live up there said SOME of the mountain cams showed up to 12" of snow, but that likely was snow drifts from the heavy winds.  Looks like about 6" to me on that picnic table...

[Hoosweather]

Eyeballing snow from pics is tough but if you want to guesstimate that’s 6 inches on the table that’s fair, but please remember that pic is at 2pm and preceding a 4 hour period of easy 1-2 inches an hour snow. That’s the period that shut down every road on the mountain. Again- being there for the storm it was easily over a foot. Really incredible stuff. But also- to your point- wind went crazy that evening/night leading to big drifts like what I showed in the above pic so you have that factor too. 

I was a member of this board for years under that old username. Long time reader. Hope folks found this interesting. It’s not a giant conspiracy theory…to accomplish what I don’t know. Just a big snowstorm at the top of a mountain. And it was awesome to experience.

 

[psuhoffman]

I have no idea what you're upset about... I was just pointing out how lucky it was that right after there was a dispute about it...that there just happened to be a new member who just joined who also just happened to be at Wintergreen so they could use their first posts ever to verify the ski resorts claim of an anomalously high amount of snow compared to everything around them even at similar elevations.  

What's controversial about those facts?