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11 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

This was only the case after Dec 31st...There was no letter needed before that date. Last years rent is a complete loss. the eviction moratorium has been extended until May 31st. The tenants haven't written anything and they are still unable to get evicted. I grew up poorer than probably anyone on these forums and I am by no means rich at all. My parents both made min. wage and my dad worked 12 hour days for 30 years to get promoted in his company and get to where he is today. I grew up in the city where people hated working and stayed at home all day on the porch living off the system.  I'm not a fan of that. To each their own. 

Those tenants sound like trash and I’m sorry your dad has to deal with them.

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11 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

All the government spending didn't really help the small guy though. That's also my point. Check out this article. Billionaires got richer during COVID during anytime in our history. We need a completely new tax structure for the rich. Has anyones wealth here grown 50%+ during covid? I can say it hasn't for me. 

https://inequality.org/great-divide/updates-billionaire-pandemic/

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You’re totally right on this. 100% of one party and 99% of the other party exist mainly to give rich people everything they want. COVID is a classic example of crisis capitalism.

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5 hours ago, wolfie09 said:

Relief bill passed as expected on a partisan basis..

Believe that is false- it is my understanding that not a single member of GOP voted for it.  

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4 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Restaurants

50 percent indoor capacity in NYC  starting March 19.

Getting better

Oooh. Think of the children! Think of the people afraid of their own shadows!  Stay Home, Save Lives! Be Insane Forever!  ;)

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13 minutes ago, Syrmax said:

Really tired of seeing soccer matches in europe with no fans. It's such a key part of game atmosphere.  But they seem to be having more problems with covid than here.  

 

 

Honestly, I’m not even watching sports right now. It’s not the same without fans. I tuned into the Super Bowl but that’s been about it since last March.

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44 minutes ago, gmendevils8204 said:

Honestly, I’m not even watching sports right now. It’s not the same without fans. I tuned into the Super Bowl but that’s been about it since last March.

I hear ya, its def not the same without the crowd. Soccer crowds are way more impactful then american football crowds on the whole as they are way more active, so its disrupted a lot of dynamics that we usually see.  It's really noticeable for my team, Borussia Dortmund, in Germany, as they have the largest average attendance of any soccer team in the world and have the Yellow Wall in the south end of the stadium, which is a HIIT cardio workout to watch a match there.  The game atmosphere is wild, tickets inexpensive and so is the Bier!  And you don't see the asinine drunken behavior that American football fans bring (looking at you Bills fans).  Tickets hard to get for inside the Wall itself, but i try to get there to see them every year.  Following on tv with fan noise piped in just makes me sad.

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11 hours ago, WNash said:

Those tenants sound like trash and I’m sorry your dad has to deal with them.

My mom rented out one side of a duplex that she inherited from her parents after they passed away. She wishes that she had just sold it immediately. Both tenants were a royal pain in the a$$. Didn’t take care of the unit, constant noise and yelling, always complaining about something, etc. The first tenant left significant damage and didn’t even fully clean the place out after moving and was shocked when she didn’t get her security deposit back. The level of entitlement is off the charts with a lot of people these days. I don’t think I’d ever want to be a landlord.

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12 hours ago, Syrmax said:

I hear ya, its def not the same without the crowd. Soccer crowds are way more impactful then american football crowds on the whole as they are way more active, so its disrupted a lot of dynamics that we usually see.  It's really noticeable for my team, Borussia Dortmund, in Germany, as they have the largest average attendance of any soccer team in the world and have the Yellow Wall in the south end of the stadium, which is a HIIT cardio workout to watch a match there.  The game atmosphere is wild, tickets inexpensive and so is the Bier!  And you don't see the asinine drunken behavior that American football fans bring (looking at you Bills fans).  Tickets hard to get for inside the Wall itself, but i try to get there to see them every year.  Following on tv with fan noise piped in just makes me sad.

Bills tailgates are the greatest thing on this planet. You haven't lived until you've been to one. 

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35 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Bills tailgates are the greatest thing on this planet. You haven't lived until you've been to one. 

Just the videos that I've seen of those tailgates blows my mind lol.  I can only imagine what it's like in the flesh.  Buffalo has such great fans.  If any fan base deserves to see a Super Bowl one day, it's theirs.  Ditto for the Sabres and the Stanley Cup.  Even though I'm a Devils fan, I kind of adopted Buffalo as my second team in the late 90's.  I loved watching Hasek play and their team reminded me of Jersey's at the time.  Not a ton of stars offensively but very gritty and determined.  One of my favorite sports memories is seeing Brodeur and Hasek pitch a double shutout at the Meadowlands two days before Christmas in 1996.  It wasn't a boring game either.  Both of them made great saves and there were plenty of scoring chances.

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43 minutes ago, gmendevils8204 said:

Just the videos that I've seen of those tailgates blows my mind lol.  I can only imagine what it's like in the flesh.  Buffalo has such great fans.  If any fan base deserves to see a Super Bowl one day, it's theirs.  Ditto for the Sabres and the Stanley Cup.  Even though I'm a Devils fan, I kind of adopted Buffalo as my second team in the late 90's.  I loved watching Hasek play and their team reminded me of Jersey's at the time.  Not a ton of stars offensively but very gritty and determined.  One of my favorite sports memories is seeing Brodeur and Hasek pitch a double shutout at the Meadowlands two days before Christmas in 1996.  It wasn't a boring game either.  Both of them made great saves and there were plenty of scoring chances.

Yeah Brodeur is an all time great. You guys have had a great team back then with Stevens. How many cups did you win 3? 

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9 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Yeah Brodeur is an all time great. You guys have had a great team back then with Stevens. How many cups did you win 3? 

Yes, 1995, 2000 and 2003.  Could have been four or five Cups but they lost a heartbreaker to the Rangers in the 1994 conference finals (Messier's guarantee and Matteau's double overtime series winner).  Then Ray Bourque and the Avalanche beat them in the 2001 Final when the Devils were up 3-2 in the series and could have finished it out at home.  No complaints though.  I got to watch some great hockey over the years.  Scott Niedermayer was a tremendous d-man also.  Killed me when he went to Anaheim but I was happy for him when he won the Cup with his brother out there.  

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15 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Cuomo trying to sway public opinion...

No question.  I know more people are being vaccinated and hospitalizations are declining but not to the point where things are suddenly that much safer.  He's definitely trying to deflect and curry favor.

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17 hours ago, WNash said:

You’re totally right on this. 100% of one party and 99% of the other party exist mainly to give rich people everything they want. COVID is a classic example of crisis capitalism.

I don’t understand why you’re so anti rich people. Anyone who works their asss off in this country can climb to whatever income level they want. Jeff bezos was by no means born rich. Is legislation being passed to prevent another Jeff bezos or Elon musk? I grew up on public assistance and I don’t remember any rich people getting in the way of me getting to where am at. Instead I worked for a few who without I wouldn’t be where I’m at in my career. 

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8 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

I don’t understand why you’re so anti rich people. Anyone who works their asss off in this country can climb to whatever income level they want. Jeff bezos was by no means born rich. Is legislation being passed to prevent another Jeff bezos or Elon musk? I grew up on public assistance and I don’t remember any rich people getting in the way of me getting to where am at. Instead I worked for a few who without I wouldn’t be where I’m at in my career. 

Completely agree.  There are so many opportunities these days, especially with the power of the internet.  I don't understand why success is demonized so much.  Some make the argument that the rich don't pay enough in taxes as a way to give back to the society where they became successful...but you can also ask why the government can't live within its means.  How many of our tax dollars do they waste on nonsense?  It seems like government is often a bottomless pit of inefficiency run by faceless, unaccountable bureaucrats.  People in the private sector have to produce and react quickly to the market or they'll be replaced and driven out of business.

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55 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

I don’t understand why you’re so anti rich people. Anyone who works their asss off in this country can climb to whatever income level they want. Jeff bezos was by no means born rich. Is legislation being passed to prevent another Jeff bezos or Elon musk? I grew up on public assistance and I don’t remember any rich people getting in the way of me getting to where am at. Instead I worked for a few who without I wouldn’t be where I’m at in my career. 

I think his point is there comes a point where wealth becomes an issue even with me. The guy is worth 200 billion, yet young children don't have access to clean water, shelter, and food. That should never happen in the richest country on the planet. Even if he gets 50% of his wealth taken away, he's still worth 100 billion, thats insane and unnecessary wealth. There are only so many homes and lambos you can buy.

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

I think his point is there comes a point where wealth becomes an issue even with me. The guy is worth 200 billion, yet young children don't have access to clean water, shelter, and food. That should never happen in the richest country on the planet. Even if he gets 50% of his wealth taken away, he's still worth 100 billion, thats insane and unnecessary wealth. There are only so many homes and lambos you can buy.

Take that $100B and evenly distribute it around the worlds poor. It’s a drop in the bucket, what maybe $12 a person? Even if you took all of the money from the worlds richest you’d simply deflate the value of the money, all of the poor would be competing against each other to buy the same limited resources. 
I understand that thought process, but it’s not as easy as saying redistribute the wealth. Plus, if I’m going to work my ass off only to have my money redistributed then what’s the point?

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16 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Take that $100B and evenly distribute it around the worlds poor. It’s a drop in the bucket, what maybe $12 a person? Even if you took all of the money from the worlds richest you’d simply deflate the value of the money, all of the poor would be competing against each other to buy the same limited resources. 
I understand that thought process, but it’s not as easy as saying redistribute the wealth. Plus, if I’m going to work my ass off only to have my money redistributed then what’s the point?

According to the latest Fed data, the top 1% of Americans have a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion (or 30.4% of all household wealth in the U.S.), while the bottom 50% of the population holds just $2.1 trillion combined. (or 1.9% of all wealth).Oct 8, 2020

You wouldn't be giving every person a distribution of that money. Under 18/21 wouldn't qualify. 

You'll still be far better off than those that don't work. It's still worth it. 

20 trillion gives 200 million americans a million dollars each. Unless my math is wrong? 

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56 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

According to the latest Fed data, the top 1% of Americans have a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion (or 30.4% of all household wealth in the U.S.), while the bottom 50% of the population holds just $2.1 trillion combined. (or 1.9% of all wealth).Oct 8, 2020

You wouldn't be giving every person a distribution of that money. Under 18/21 wouldn't qualify. 

You'll still be far better off than those that don't work. It's still worth it. 

20 trillion gives 200 million americans a million dollars each. Unless my math is wrong? 

Few issues here. 

Maths wrong, it would be 100,000 each. 

Also, the inflation that would be caused. Basically $1M wouldnt be worth $1M anymore. 


In addition, most of that number is tied up in stocks and property. How do you liquidate a $20M mansion when you took all the resources from the people who can afford it? Or force all of America to have an equal share of stock in Tesla or Amazon?

 

My point is there is literally nothing stopping you from building the empires that Bezos or Misk have. The system works better here than most of the world. Not without its problems, but better than most. 
 

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33 minutes ago, Luke_Mages said:

Few issues here. 

Maths wrong, it would be 100,000 each. 

Also, the inflation that would be caused. Basically $1M wouldnt be worth $1M anymore. 


In addition, most of that number is tied up in stocks and property. How do you liquidate a $20M mansion when you took all the resources from the people who can afford it? Or force all of America to have an equal share of stock in Tesla or Amazon?

 

My point is there is literally nothing stopping you from building the empires that Bezos or Misk have. The system works better here than most of the world. Not without its problems, but better than most. 
 

Would there be inflation if they invested the money into the market? Most of the money is tied up in the stock market. Lets make it easier to invest for the average everyday citizen. Maybe give them a monthly stipend that is invested directly into an ETF and can only withdraw after 59 1/2? With pensions gone, most people my age are not saving nearly enough to retire. We need something else in its place. Most wealth is directly related to money in the market and real estate. 

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1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Would there be inflation if they invested the money into the market? Most of the money is tied up in the stock market. Lets make it easier to invest for the average everyday citizen. Maybe give them a monthly stipend that is invested directly into an ETF and can only withdraw after 59 1/2? With pensions gone, most people my age are not saving nearly enough to retire. We need something else in its place. Most wealth is directly related to money in the market and real estate. 

Sounds like social security just with better returns...

I do believe that universal income will become a reality in mine and your lifetimes do to the advances in automation. How much and how it’s distributed will be the question. 

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7 hours ago, Luke_Mages said:

Cuomo trying to sway public opinion...

Next Book he writes about himself:

"How I opened New York Back up in the midst of fondling women. If I can do it, nobody else can. I. Am. Amazing."

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Fauci is very much considering lowering the 6ft rule to 3ft. A recent study of 251 Massachusetts school districts showed no difference in Covid related cases of infection between the 2 distances while wearing masks. So there is now overwhelming evidence of low #’s of transmission in schools and the 6 ft rule seems to be the curtail to opening schools fully. Thus needs to be lowered immediately so school kids can get back where they belong, in school, amongst friends in a social and educational environment 

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