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2016 Atlantic Hurricane Season General Discussion


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On 9/15/2016 at 6:12 PM, Isopycnic said:

You should go chase Julia... For noaa.

 

I will if it tries to strike Oak Island, NC.....pattern supports anywhere from Florida to NC....not out to sea like the NHC suggests. The pattern is different further out to sea for Karl tho...that one will pose no threat to us.

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12z euro cat 5 Karl 923mb. that's a fish storm we would all like to track finally.

weak or strong it may get a little ways south-west of Bermuda but it will near 100% turn away from the east coast with this setup. should be a easy forecast and a fun one to track as it really intensifies. there is only a small chance, around 1-3% chance IMO, with front similarities out ahead, to Hurricane Floyd, a worse case scenario could unfold. 

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4 hours ago, NWNC2015 said:

UPDATE

NHC changing path for Julia...no longer north-east.....most global models in agreement for direct strike into North Carolina as it goes non-tropical and enhances rain within approaching front. WPC looking wet for OBX.

 

What models show a direct strike?

The models are getting weaker with  Karl though which could have an impact on the track.

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Most models do bring Julia over eastern NC but they do so with a very weak low, the vis images this morning show the LLC breaking down so it might be dead. It needs to fiire storms on the center, if it doesnt it is dead and done. It might have fired storms last night but it doesnt appear it was enough to save it, but you never know with these things..the LLC does look much much worse today than it did yesterday. 

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On 9/16/2016 at 11:13 AM, packbacker said:

For Karl to get farther west we need that ridge over the OH-V to lift NE and trough to shift east some.  

 

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EPS starts to hint at that day 10...lots of members on the EPS showing potential SE hits.

 

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Problem is how volatile and progressive the pattern is.

From the 06z runs we see the turn NE begins around 162-180 hours, however the mean turns earlier (closer to 162).

Here's the 500mb vort map animation (sorry for the link)

http://imgur.com/a/LEMCz

showing a huge trough with a low in the lakes diving east, with the remnants of Julia tracking over the NE and Karl making the turn NE. This is probably the most likely situation and it better be, I leave for Brazil Sat night out of ATL

 

 

On 9/16/2016 at 11:15 AM, packbacker said:

Floyd in 99.

 

 

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FWIW via Eric Web, the ideal TC US landfall composite

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Julia could get slightly interesting if she can take advantage of the rapidly decreasing northernly shear forecast for tonight into tomorrow....the southerly shear wont be as bad since she should be moving north at that point and we could actually see a weak TS landfalling along the SE NC coast especially if it moves faster than the forecast calls for....anytime you have a decent LLC over the gulf stream with low shear you got to worry it has a chance to organize quickly. 

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Latest on Julia from NHC, I think she might move a bit faster north if she does develop a core of storms,  they always seem too slow with the timing on these type systems, they almost always get here quicker than modeled.....probably see TS warnings from Myrtle Beach to Lookout or Hatteras by this time tomorrow if it does flare up overnight.....really do not want the rain.  Would be crazy if she bombs out and makes a run at a decent TS....

Julia has a narrow window of opportunity to strengthen tonight and
Monday morning when the vertical wind shear is forecast to weaken
significantly and the upper-level flow is expected to become more
anticyclonic. These more conducive dynamics are forecast to coincide
with the nighttime convective maximum period and also during the
time when Julia will be over the Gulf Stream where SSTs are 29-30C.
Buoy reports offshore the South Carolina coast indicate that surface
dew points have increased to near 80F, a further indication that the
atmosphere surrounding Julia is becoming more conducive for
regeneration of convection near the center later tonight. By Monday
afternoon and evening, increasing southwesterly shear ahead of the
aforementioned shortwave trough should induce steady weakening,
which is expected to continue as the cyclone approaches the coast
of North Carolina.

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Rapid change from the WPC from earlier outlooks..really shoving in heavier totals for eastern NC into the Piedmont, Virginia included. 

 

9 hours ago, Snow88 said:

What models show a direct strike?

The models are getting weaker with  Karl though which could have an impact on the track.

With Julia...nearly all of them its a lock for increased tropical moisture. Karl has never been a threat...in this pattern. I have said for several days Julia will be the greater impact even when the NHC had her rapidly going north-east out to sea...she was in a sweet spot for steering currents that Karl will NEVER get close to seeing. 

NO long tracking storms from Africa that go north of the Caribbean Islands will be a threat in this setup. NONE. They must go through the Caribbean or develop in the western Caribbean or GOM....and then they will sharply turn north-east towards Florida/East Coast States in this steering pattern. 

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If Joe Bastardi wasn't so focused with Karl missing the trough or not he would have seen Julia has always been the real threat based on the weak steering. 

 

* Flash Flood Watch for a portion of eastern North Carolina...

* Until 6 am EDT Tuesday *

heavy rain from Post tropical cyclone Julia interacting with a stalled front will produce a risk of flash flooding. Rainfall amounts of 2 to 4 inches are likely with locally higher amounts to 6 inches possible.

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For upcoming "Matthew"

Major east coast erosion if the 6z GFS is right from Florida to Maine. Eastern NC is spared last minute but OBX is brushed with wind and heavy rain from offshore 963mb. Big blow to New England incoming 949 mb direct strike. 

12z GFS........weak hurricane for Puerto Rico....961mb hurricane for Bermuda.....943mb turns WEST direct strike for Nova Scotia. 

18z GFS....minor impact to Bahamas and out sea.

12z EURO....987mb strengthening south-west Caribbean in no hurry to come north and east.

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gfs 6z develops sooner for Caribbean islands and more north into central Caribbean less South America impact

hour210 passing north-west of Jamaica 990mb

hour240 brief strike of western Cuba or just offshore going through the Yucatan Channel 981mb

hour 252 Matthew is the hot Gulf of Mexico up 1mb after Cuba interaction

hour 276 RI underway, 969mb and steering is north into the United States

hour 288 major hurricane Matthew is running for a Hurricane Ivan path but more east

landfall/stall Florida panhandle for days, slow fizzle due east not north

most rain shunted south of Atlanta GA, some strengthening of storm in the Atlantic out to sea for Carolina rain showers

 

 

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