WintersGrasp Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sref's look wetter but much warmer to me....however there appears to be some nice wraparound snows ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 the srefs are wetter, but pretty warm And still a good amount of West leaning spread. .. Not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 And still a good amount of West leaning spread. .. Not good Yeah a good amount of members with inland solutions….eek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 And still a good amount of West leaning spread. .. Not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SNfreak21 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Are SREFs even part of the recon data since it initialized at 21z? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Are SREFs even part of the recon data since it initialized at 21z?No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rok Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 And still a good amount of West leaning spread. .. Not good not that it matters but no new data went into these as far as I know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Euro/UKIE/GGEM: This camp is amped but not running inland to the point of what we witnessed from the RGEM. They are as user said snow to rain to snow and a good amount of it at that. This camp is where im sitting ATM or even slightly SE of what they are showing based on my feelings of the interaction of the kicker. I like their handling of the players on the field and feel that the final solution will be close to this camp. I said it last night in chat and I know Red will hold me to it. The Euro/Ukie/CGEM will be the ultimate "winner" as far as track/placement goes. As far as QPF still not close enough for a solid handle on it but I feel very confident w a 8-10" initial snowfall for W Suffolk/Nassau w a bit more in the city. I'm not 100% sold on the backside snow just yet. At least not the 2-4" some have spoken of. Living by it and hopefully not dying by it. No matter what this has been an interesting last few days. And a big thanks to John, Yanks and PB for all their insight and patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Are SREFs even part of the recon data since it initialized at 21z? No. Models that will have it are 00z gfs 00z cmc 00z ukmet 00z euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 No. Models that will have it are 00z gfs 00z cmc 00z ukmet 00z euro I think they said the nam would have some of the data, or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm chaser Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I have been hearing more about a "kicker" on here the last couple days than watching the NFL. In all seriousness hopefully it comes in and saves the day keeping this thing from coming too far inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I guess that recon data is basically our last resort at something more favorable, but ironically it could indicate that the storm will be even further west than it is now. Whoever called for an inland or coastal hugger should be congratulated if that's the case. (I think DT and JB both said it would be further west, especially DT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I think they said the nam would have some of the data, or something along those lines. No nam won't have any recon data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I guess that recon data is basically our last resort at something more favorable, but ironically it could indicate that the storm will be even further west than it is now. Whoever called for an inland or coastal hugger should be congratulated if that's the case. (I think DT and JB both said it would be further west, especially DT). No congrats yet. ..36 hours to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkiesFading Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 No. Models that will have it are 00z gfs 00z cmc 00z ukmet 00z euro And the 00z RGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I guess that recon data is basically our last resort at something more favorable, but ironically it could indicate that the storm will be even further west than it is now. Whoever called for an inland or coastal hugger should be congratulated if that's the case. (I think DT and JB both said it would be further west, especially DT). We should be congratulating the euro...it hasn't wavered in days and now all the others are playing catch up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Without incorporating the US data this evening the UKIE and GGEM will pretty much tell me where we are headed if we can stop the westward wobble then the euro will not look bad. But If we see the non Americans jump west again then I will prob readjust my thinking to the dark side. The nam will not hav the new data so don't let it fool u in case it's east. Wait to see if the Ukie and GGEM arwedifferent than 12z and by how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD0815 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Are SREFs even part of the recon data since it initialized at 21z? mets feel free to correct me if i am wrong, but i am pretty sure the answer to this is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Without incorporating the US data this evening the UKIE and GGEM will pretty much tell me where we are headed if we can stop the westward wobble then the euro will not look bad. But If we see the non Americans jump west again then I will prob readjust my thinking to the dark side. The nam will not hav the new data so don't let it fool u in case it's east. Wait to see if the Ukie and GGEM arwedifferent than 12z and by how much. when ukie and ggem come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn510 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Would the warmth being modeled lead to plain rain or mostly sleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 around .75-1.00 falls as frozen on the srefs…not bad…. 6-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD0815 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 We should be congratulating the euro...it hasn't wavered in days and now all the others are playing catch up well, yes and no. it certainly hasn't lost the storm at any point, but compare today at 12z and yesterday and tell me there aren't real differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The NAM holding serve would be interesting at the very least, since it is really the last model to support a KU snowfall event for the metro areas. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm chaser Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 when ukie and ggem come out? Refer to Pg1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The changeover if it happens for interior NNJ looks to be limited to 6 hours or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatenWx Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 No nam won't have any recon data According to the HPC it was getting a partial data injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjvesnow Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 around .75-1.00 falls as frozen on the srefs…not bad…. 6-10 What area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The NAM holding serve would be interesting at the very least, since it is really the last model to support a KU snowfall event for the metro areas. Sent from my iPhone it's going to snow heavily from Grorgia to Maine. This is a high impact KU hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 it's going to snow heavily from Grorgia to Maine. This is a high impact KU hands down. Absolutely, the snow and ice for parts further S&W are going to be historic and potentially catastrophic. Thank god they've basically shut down everything in Atlanta for two days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 According to the HPC it was getting a partial data injection. Oh then maybe ur right.. From what I had read my understanding was the NAM would be the only model with no recon data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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