Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Radar filling in nicely even off Boston. Phil's storm commences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Radar filling in nicely even off Boston. Phil's storm commences Anything got a shot at getting to Bristol county? Can't really tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Anything got a shot at getting to Bristol county? Can't really tell Not tonight or early am. May barely make it inland in Plymouth county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Still almost totally clear but can just see the shelf of clouds moving down from the nne. Breeze has veered enough to be off the water. Too bad there's so much subsidence 8h and or not nne or ne winds there. Could have been a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Snowing on the south shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Snowing on the south shore. Nice man I bet you can't wait for a nice cold nor easter where you get the additional ocean enhancement as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Nice man I bet you can't wait for a nice cold nor easter where you get the additional ocean enhancement as well. Well there was nothing at my house as I went to work, but about 10 miles to my SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Well there was nothing at my house as I went to work, but about 10 miles to my SE.I came close to congrats-ing you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I came close to congrats-ing you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Well there was nothing at my house as I went to work, but about 10 miles to my SE. I'm not sure why nobody had snow in the forecast for PYM county. As the day went on yesterday it was clear it'd make it. Little surprised by how little fell on the mid cape but obviously there's a ne component at a couple thousand feet. These highs need to displace a little NNE and then we could really rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm not sure why nobody had snow in the forecast for PYM county. As the day went on yesterday it was clear it'd make it. Little surprised by how little fell on the mid cape but obviously there's a ne component at a couple thousand feet. These highs need to displace a little NNE and then we could really rock. I looked on the S weymouth TDWR and it wasn't showing anything near the shore. I wonder if it's even hitting the ground there. Yeah having a 1042 high overhead is certainly not good and this event looked rather lousy even a couple of days ago...but nice to see flakes when it's near 20F I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I looked on the S weymouth TDWR and it wasn't showing anything near the shore. I wonder if it's even hitting the ground there. Yeah having a 1042 high overhead is certainly not good and this event looked rather lousy even a couple of days ago...but nice to see flakes when it's near 20F I suppose. With no real support at 8h this was going to be very tough. Shame too because despite the dry air if winds were aligned this would have rocked. Just a very weak flow with good instability. Shame we wasted a great oes opportunity. Lately nothing is aligning quite right unless your a ski resort making snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 With no real support at 8h this was going to be very tough. Shame too because despite the dry air if winds were aligned this would have rocked. Just a very weak flow with good instability. Shame we wasted a great oes opportunity. Lately nothing is aligning quite right unless your a ski resort making snow! Well November gave you guys an inch or so of snow with cold temps. For Novie...I'd say you did fairly well. I'm fine with the season so far. It's very difficult to get snow here this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Actually saw a nice coating in Gloucester so it is reaching the ground. Good flakes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Are these flakes or frost on the cars here in Cambridge? Sweet view of oe clouds coming over the bu bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Well November gave you guys an inch or so of snow with cold temps. For Novie...I'd say you did fairly well. I'm fine with the season so far. It's very difficult to get snow here this early.I agree wholeheartedly. I feel Dec 15 or so is where we typically start goingHad trace or better on 5 days in November. Not bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 had some nice starlit skies and oes flakes floating down earlier. now just quiet and very cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 With no real support at 8h this was going to be very tough. Shame too because despite the dry air if winds were aligned this would have rocked. Just a very weak flow with good instability. Shame we wasted a great oes opportunity. Lately nothing is aligning quite right unless your a ski resort making snow! oes can actually even develop with 8h winds blowing offshore. it was a combo of things that wouldn't allow this one to be any more than it was expected to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 oes can actually even develop with 8h winds blowing offshore. it was a combo of things that wouldn't allow this one to be any more than it was expected to be. It can but it's almost never of consequence unless we've got better support around 8h. You could see last night winds near that level were fighting the lower level winds as bands were being pushed south but still with nw to se banding. Scituate looks to be the jackpot this am. There are years when oes is prolific. We just need a high a little north and we may dump some good fluff from one of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 It can but it's almost never of consequence unless we've got better support around 8h. You could see last night winds near that level were fighting the lower level winds as bands were being pushed south but still with nw to se banding. Scituate looks to be the jackpot this am. There are years when oes is prolific. We just need a high a little north and we may dump some good fluff from one of these I think one of the famous case studies for OES that dropped like 17" in South Weymouth had some west winds around 800mb. That's usually how they can organized in bands and you get those convective rolls that allow bands to form. Anyways, it's all about inv heights and moisture. Even an inv height to 900mb can produce if the temp and moisture are adequate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted November 30, 2013 Author Share Posted November 30, 2013 I think one of the famous case studies for OES that dropped like 17" in South Weymouth had some west winds around 800mb. That's usually how they can organized in bands and you get those convective rolls that allow bands to form. Anyways, it's all about inv heights and moisture. Even an inv height to 900mb can produce if the temp and moisture are adequate. yeah exactly. we actually see that pretty regularly. really the best way to get them to produce here is to get some sort of synoptic scale feature to give them a little assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 yeah exactly. we actually see that pretty regularly. really the best way to get them to produce here is to get some sort of synoptic scale feature to give them a little assist. Yeah a s/w moving in can assist. We are due for some OES N-NE wind events along the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADKweather27 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 yeah exactly. we actually see that pretty regularly. really the best way to get them to produce here is to get some sort of synoptic scale feature to give them a little assist. Its actually very similar to finger lake effect snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I think one of the famous case studies for OES that dropped like 17" in South Weymouth had some west winds around 800mb. That's usually how they can organized in bands and you get those convective rolls that allow bands to form. Anyways, it's all about inv heights and moisture. Even an inv height to 900mb can produce if the temp and moisture are adequate. But in that instance what were the winds 900-850? We had some great oes events in the 90s all the way back into Bristol county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 But in that instance what were the winds 900-850? We had some great oes events in the 90s all the way back into Bristol county. I'll look but I think they were more N-NE below 850. That's how you get the good alignment into Bristol County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 As soon as the clouds moved back in a light snow shower started again. Nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 But in that instance what were the winds 900-850? We had some great oes events in the 90s all the way back into Bristol county. I lived in Bristol county as a kid and i cant recall a single storm where there was ocean effect to the tune of 2" or more. Enhancement in nor'easter (perhaps) but more for pym county for sure. I cant recall any significant Bristol county oes in my raynham hood Eva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I lived in Bristol county as a kid and i cant recall a single storm where there was ocean effect to the tune of 2" or more. Enhancement in nor'easter (perhaps) but more for pym county for sure. I cant recall any significant Bristol county oes in my raynham hood Eva. There were a few events that give TAN a couple of inches. I remember them since I went to HS at Coyle Cassidy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Anyways, cool mesoscale things going on. BOS with NNW winds and HYA NE winds as well a the interior. Localized convergence and lower pressure near the cstl front locking in light NNW winds near the coast. Also, the natural tendency will be for colder air to move towards the warmer ocean water...just like cold air over the ocean would want to move towards the warmer land in the summer. Meanwhile, the synoptic flow is forcing the air to start to turn more NE like it is over in ORH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 There were a few events that give TAN a couple of inches. I remember them since I went to HS at Coyle Cassidy. You went to coyle? Man small world lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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