nzucker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Was a D+ but yesterday's storm brought it up to a C-. If we get more storms in March then that may go up to a C or C+. Temps in DJF were pretty poor overall (cumulative departure of +3.5), but we did have one good cold outbreak that week in January, and November was well below average (-3.0). Including the entire season of November through March so far we're only +1.8, and since the rest of March looks cold we may be able to bring that down to +1.0 or less. Total snowfall at Rutgers of 23" is still a little below average but maybe we will get to average or even a little above with storms later this month. One big downside this winter as others have mentioned is how little long-lasting snowcover we have had. The gradient across the NYC metro area is absolutely sick this year, a little reminiscent of Winter 08-09. Rutgers has 23", Dobbs Ferry has 46", and Bridgeport has 61". I usually get about a foot more than your area, but this year I have two feet more, and that's mostly because of the blizzard. I also usually get about the same amount as BDR, or perhaps a little more, but the 30" they received in the 2/8 Nor'easter put them well out of reach for the 12-13 season. Also, the gradient in the blizzard caused a lot of changes in snow cover, which affects one's subjective perceptions of a winter. Your area only had about 8" in the blizzard, which melted quickly with the rainstorm and slightly above normal temperatures the next week. I had 17" in the blizzard, which lasted until 2/25 when the rainy end of the month finally wiped out continuous snow cover. Thus, I picked up 17 days of snow cover from the blizzard while you had maybe a week; BDR maintained snow even longer due to the amount they received. I give a B- so far because 46" is well above average, November and March have been frigid extending the cold season, and we had one monster snowstorm and two other moderate events (11/7 and 3/8 with 8" and 9" respectively), as well as a long-overdue arctic shot in January. I also had decent snow cover because I did well in 12/29 and got a few inches in the mid-January clippers, as well as the big total from the blizzard. There's about 4" remaining from yesterday's snowfall in the woods behind my house at 350', so we'll notch another day of snow cover for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 C+ so far however i think at some point this month, even after next weeks potential, there's going to be a strong noreaster again, so there might be another event to bump it up to a B- B- now for me. About 34" on the season with even more potential to improve on that down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Wow, the grading on this thread sounds a lot like my college years. You get tough prof's who see your work as C and others as an A. If you really like cold, this winter pretty much stank. But for me, cold without snow is nothing more than an annoyance. This I pretty much weigh cold very lightly. It's all about snowfall. As far as grading schemes, I cannot use a B- . That's like saying a 2.75 GPA is B-. No, that's a C+ and a 3.0 is B and can only be a B. I guess that's the Rutgers in me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Wow, the grading on this thread sounds a lot like my college years. You get tough prof's who see your work as C and others as an A. If you really like cold, this winter pretty much stank. But for me, cold without snow is nothing more than an annoyance. This I pretty much weigh cold very lightly. It's all about snowfall. As far as grading schemes, I cannot use a B- . That's like saying a 2.75 GPA is B-. No, that's a C+ and a 3.0 is B and can only be a B. I guess that's the Rutgers in me. I love cold, and I'm still giving the winter a B- grade. Here's why: --November finished -3.8F with 8.5" snowfall, putting to rest the idea that our autumns had become permanently mild. --Dobbs Ferry did not get above freezing from January 21-26, and lows were consistently 7-11F those nights. --The February 8th snowfall stayed on the ground for nearly 3 weeks. --March should finish at least -2F given the forecasted pattern, and could finish with near-record cold if the Euro is correct. Yes, the arctic spell was mistimed as we didn't have snow cover and couldn't get to 0F. Yes, December was dreadfully mild and was reminiscent of Winter 11-12 and all of its warm weather. Yes, DJF averaged significantly above normal. However, the shoulder season has been pretty cold this year, which has made it seem like a long winter, and I love that. We've also had decent snow cover for a winter with only 46" seasonal total. Finally, we've finally broken the streak of torch Marches with low snowfall. This could be an epic March given we have 9" with temperatures about 2F below normal. If the pattern breaks as the 12z ECM shows, we'll probably get 15-20" this March and finish like -4F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Insinuation fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseBlizzard2014 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 B- so far. Up to 41.2" of snowfall so far this season, considering the average is 32" of snow for Mount Vernon. Could end up being a B+ or maybe an A- by the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 B- so far. Up to 41.2" of snowfall so far this season, considering the average is 32" of snow for Mount Vernon. Could end up being a B+ or maybe an A- by the end of the month. I don't think you could grade this winter higher than a B+ even if March/April does produce one more large storm and a smaller event as well. A really snowy March/April would bring you to about 55" on the season. That's well above average but Southern Westchester has seen several seasons with at least 70" of snow, for example 57-58, 60-61, 66-67, 95-96, and 2010-11. Years like 77-78 and 02-03 had around 60" of snow in our area. I think you might be young and not realizing how much snow can fall around here...60-61 had 90" measured in downtown Dobbs Ferry with a 32" snowpack downtown, and higher elevations in the area may have approached 100" that winter. Barring something unheard of, you're not going to get nearly that much this season, so I don't see how you can grade it in the A range. Also, I don't see how you can grade it that high based on temperatures either. How can any winter with a +5 December and a +2.5 January get an A-? That's the heart of our winter season wasted on well above average temperatures. Sure, November and March look to be WAY colder than normal, but we don't have snow pack or single digits/low teens during those months, so you don't get a real wintry essence from that part of the season. To have a really good winter, you need some cold concentrated in the heart of winter as we experienced in 10-11. This winter wasn't even close to 10-11, and 10-11 wasn't as good a winter as 95-96, 60-61, or 57-58. So I'd grade a bit harsher, but it's your perceptions of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'd be willing to upgrade this winter into the B range with the warm DJF period if I broke 40" on the season. Would need a 6.4" storm to do it, which is entirely possible through mid April, and given this pattern, there's a better chance than usual this year. In 2005-06, I had 32" in an overall very mild winter. Getting upwards of 35-40" in a winter that was +3.4 for DJF would be very impressive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'd be willing to upgrade this winter into the B range with the warm DJF period if I broke 40" on the season. Would need a 6.4" storm to do it, which is entirely possible through mid April, and given this pattern, there's a better chance than usual this year. In 2005-06, I had 32" in an overall very mild winter. Getting upwards of 35-40" in a winter that was +3.4 for DJF would be very impressive to me. Yes that was a really warm winter with few cold periods. Had 31" here and the snow events coincided nicely with its minimal outbreaks. My favorite was the 1-14 event. We had RN with temp of 65 in the early afternoon, then my wife, in labor, had our twin boys during the flash freeze followed by 4" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Sustained December through February cold simply does not occur around here because of the latitude (amongst several other factors) so you really should not expect it. One would likey need to head practically to the US / Canadien border to avoid occasional mild spells in winter. Sustained December through February snow cover (or even having the ground well covered with snow most of the time) is pretty rare south of a line from Danbury to the Delaware Water Gap...though the closer you are to that line, the better your chances. This whole area is pretty much a transitional zone between the cold, snowy winters to the north and the mild, rainy winters to the south...the second region probably starts just south of the 40th parallel. Even going up the Hudson River Valley as far north as Albany is no guarantee of snow & continuous snow cover...though in the higher spots to the west & east of the river chances increase considerably. For truly sustained winter (5 months of snow cover / 150 days / mid Nov - mid April)...Caribou, Maine would do the trick...though I don't know if there's much of a life up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygar Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Up to a B with this latest 9 inch storm. Hasn't been terribly cold but now above average with total snow and there has been snow on the ground almost all winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sampson Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I haven't given this winter a grade yet because it is not yet finished, but the score will definitely be better because of the strong 2nd half. Much like the NCAA selection committee where the "what have you done for me lately?" mentality is pervasive, I feel that a good ending always improves my perception, and, in this case, the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Sustained December through February cold simply does not occur around here because of the latitude (amongst several other factors) so you really should not expect it. One would likey need to head practically to the US / Canadien border to avoid occasional mild spells in winter. Sustained December through February snow cover (or even having the ground well covered with snow most of the time) is pretty rare south of a line from Danbury to the Delaware Water Gap...though the closer you are to that line, the better your chances. This whole area is pretty much a transitional zone between the cold, snowy winters to the north and the mild, rainy winters to the south...the second region probably starts just south of the 40th parallel. Even going up the Hudson River Valley as far north as Albany is no guarantee of snow & continuous snow cover...though in the higher spots to the west & east of the river chances increase considerably. For truly sustained winter (5 months of snow cover / 150 days / mid Nov - mid April)...Caribou, Maine would do the trick...though I don't know if there's much of a life up there. Good post, I'm fine with living in the transitional zone. Some winters with long duration snow packs, other winters with not much. Snowpack is nice but it's not as important as snowfall totals to me. Even some of our great winters, like 2002-03, didn't have snowpack for more than 3-4 weeks I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Agree, strongly. I might be biased, but I'm giving my backyard an A+ this winter. First winter in Sussex county vs a lifetime in Clifton....even with the spring weather today, I still have a few inches on the grass. January featured light snow or flurries nearly every morning around sunrise. We didn't close until after the first November snowfall, but made it in time for the second November snowfall...seeing the branches and homes in the area pasted with snow made the bigger mortgage payment worth it =) Most people think I'm nuts... perhaps less so on this board? ... but I loved having snow on the ground almost continuously since Thanksgiving. What I loved even more is that I forgot what "dirty" snow looks like... it snows, melts, then snows again, all without turning black! who knew? Anyway, all you snow lovers in the city should be up this way. It's really not that far, and I know of some great deals on homes in the area (and on my block!) For the combination of snow and convenience, this is awesome...and fun for the kids. Good post, I'm fine with living in the transitional zone. Some winters with long duration snow packs, other winters with not much. Snowpack is nice but it's not as important as snowfall totals to me. Even some of our great winters, like 2002-03, didn't have snowpack for more than 3-4 weeks I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Agree, strongly. I might be biased, but I'm giving my backyard an A+ this winter. First winter in Sussex county vs a lifetime in Clifton....even with the spring weather today, I still have a few inches on the grass. January featured light snow or flurries nearly every morning around sunrise. We didn't close until after the first November snowfall, but made it in time for the second November snowfall...seeing the branches and homes in the area pasted with snow made the bigger mortgage payment worth it =) Most people think I'm nuts... perhaps less so on this board? ... but I loved having snow on the ground almost continuously since Thanksgiving. What I loved even more is that I forgot what "dirty" snow looks like... it snows, melts, then snows again, all without turning black! who knew? Anyway, all you snow lovers in the city should be up this way. It's really not that far, and I know of some great deals on homes in the area (and on my block!) For the combination of snow and convenience, this is awesome...and fun for the kids. There's no doubting that snow in the city blows chunks compared to the suburbs. It's almost as if it didn't snow after the storm's over for the city. I'm my area here in CNJ the snow stays nice and clean as well. That's impressive you had snowpack since Thanksgiving. If I had my choice, grass would be covered from Dec 1st-March 31st, or at least meteorological winter, DJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 Good post, I'm fine with living in the transitional zone. Some winters with long duration snow packs, other winters with not much. Snowpack is nice but it's not as important as snowfall totals to me. Even some of our great winters, like 2002-03, didn't have snowpack for more than 3-4 weeks I don't think. Up here we did have a pretty long duration snow pack in 02-03...I got 11" on 12/25/02 which set up snow cover during the cold January. There was a moderate event in early February, and then we got 16" with PDII, which made the snow really deep. I remember not being able to take the golf course to walk to school during that time frame. I had 60" that winter so there were some good stretches with snow pack, certainly much better than this winter...temps were A LOT colder, too. March was rather benign so the pack died early, but we did get 3" on 4/7/03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Up here we did have a pretty long duration snow pack in 02-03...I got 11" on 12/25/02 which set up snow cover during the cold January. There was a moderate event in early February, and then we got 16" with PDII, which made the snow really deep. I remember not being able to take the golf course to walk to school during that time frame. I had 60" that winter so there were some good stretches with snow pack, certainly much better than this winter...temps were A LOT colder, too. March was rather benign so the pack died early, but we did get 3" on 4/7/03. 2002-03 was one of the best years ever out here for number of days that the ground was well covered with snow...72 days...including 3 in Nov, 13 in Dec, 14 in Jan, 23 in Feb, 16 in March, and 3 in April. My records show 6.5" on March 6, 2003 and a couple smaller falls later in the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Maybe my memory is bad for snow cover that year. Recorded 55" IMBY. Had the early Dec SECS, Christmas mod snowfall, a few light events in Jan, early Feb SECS, then the HECS, early march light snow, and early april SECS. No doubt a phenomenal winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Maybe my memory is bad for snow cover that year. Recorded 55" IMBY. Had the early Dec SECS, Christmas mod snowfall, a few light events in Jan, early Feb SECS, then the HECS, early march light snow, and early april SECS. No doubt a phenomenal winter. Had 46" but I know we lost the snow we had from December, then the one in early January also, so that while Janaury was cold there wasn't real snow on the ground. I do recall that starting with the Feb 6-7 event through either late Feb or early March we had snow cover. I don't recall when it left us completely offhand, I'll have to check some old video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Maybe my memory is bad for snow cover that year. Recorded 55" IMBY. Had the early Dec SECS, Christmas mod snowfall, a few light events in Jan, early Feb SECS, then the HECS, early march light snow, and early april SECS. No doubt a phenomenal winter. Here's the New Brunswick dailies, I think snow depth at home varried in a similar fashion. 10/01/2002 75 49 0.00 0.0 010/02/2002 80 55 0.00 0.0 010/03/2002 86 62 0.00 0.0 010/04/2002 83 62 0.14 0.0 010/05/2002 74 62 0.08 0.0 010/06/2002 85 48 0.00 0.0 010/07/2002 69 49 0.00 0.0 010/08/2002 78 46 0.00 0.0 010/09/2002 64 43 0.00 0.0 010/10/2002 66 44 0.00 0.0 010/11/2002 63 55 1.48 0.0 010/12/2002 64 54 2.65 0.0 010/13/2002 62 56 0.18 0.0 010/14/2002 63 46 0.05 0.0 010/15/2002 58 36 0.00 0.0 010/16/2002 57 47 0.19 0.0 010/17/2002 54 41 0.56 0.0 010/18/2002 61 41 0.07 0.0 010/19/2002 59 38 0.00 0.0 010/20/2002 64 37 0.00 0.0 010/21/2002 61 40 0.00 0.0 010/22/2002 61 35 0.00 0.0 010/23/2002 59 35 0.00 0.0 010/24/2002 56 33 0.00 0.0 010/25/2002 50 31 0.00 0.0 010/26/2002 56 43 1.47 0.0 010/27/2002 61 40 0.59 0.0 010/28/2002 62 39 0.00 0.0 010/29/2002 53 31 0.00 0.0 010/30/2002 46 32 0.40 T T10/31/2002 44 35 0.17 0.0 011/01/2002 53 30 0.00 0.0 011/02/2002 53 31 0.00 0.0 011/03/2002 46 30 0.00 0.0 011/04/2002 49 31 0.00 0.0 011/05/2002 50 31 0.00 0.0 011/06/2002 50 33 0.66 0.0 011/07/2002 51 40 T 0.0 011/08/2002 49 27 0.00 0.0 011/09/2002 61 29 0.00 0.0 011/10/2002 65 37 0.00 0.0 011/11/2002 73 57 0.00 0.0 011/12/2002 68 51 0.15 0.0 011/13/2002 55 48 0.91 0.0 011/14/2002 50 31 0.03 0.0 011/15/2002 59 30 0.00 0.0 011/16/2002 60 41 0.00 0.0 011/17/2002 47 38 1.22 0.0 011/18/2002 43 37 0.65 0.0 011/19/2002 49 28 0.00 0.0 011/20/2002 49 28 T 0.0 011/21/2002 60 30 0.00 0.0 011/22/2002 55 31 0.37 0.0 011/23/2002 52 35 0.29 0.0 011/24/2002 46 34 0.00 0.0 011/25/2002 53 28 0.00 0.0 011/26/2002 62 29 0.00 0.0 011/27/2002 49 32 0.31 0.3 T11/28/2002 38 22 0.00 0.0 011/29/2002 37 22 0.00 0.0 011/30/2002 43 27 0.00 0.0 012/01/2002 48 30 T 0.0 012/02/2002 36 25 0.00 0.0 012/03/2002 39 20 0.00 0.0 012/04/2002 29 15 0.00 0.0 012/05/2002 32 14 T T T12/06/2002 28 26 0.66 7.7 812/07/2002 36 12 0.00 0.0 612/08/2002 36 13 0.00 0.0 512/09/2002 46 18 0.00 0.0 312/10/2002 29 14 0.00 0.0 312/11/2002 34 17 0.00 0.0 212/12/2002 39 33 1.14 0.0 T12/13/2002 49 26 0.00 0.0 012/14/2002 47 27 0.77 0.0 012/15/2002 46 40 0.04 0.0 012/16/2002 49 38 0.01 0.0 012/17/2002 43 21 0.00 0.0 012/18/2002 36 18 0.00 0.0 012/19/2002 39 16 0.00 0.0 012/20/2002 50 38 0.02 0.0 012/21/2002 62 34 0.53 0.0 012/22/2002 48 26 T 0.0 012/23/2002 56 37 T 0.0 012/24/2002 46 31 0.00 0.0 012/25/2002 40 31 0.14 T T12/26/2002 39 28 0.94 3.5 412/27/2002 37 28 0.00 0.0 212/28/2002 38 26 0.00 0.0 212/29/2002 39 26 T T T12/30/2002 45 26 0.00 0.0 012/31/2002 43 26 T 0.0 001/01/2003 53 37 0.11 0.0 001/02/2003 45 34 1.92 0.0 001/03/2003 37 29 0.15 0.2 T01/04/2003 35 32 0.60 T T01/05/2003 38 32 0.00 0.0 001/06/2003 38 30 0.16 1.6 201/07/2003 35 26 0.08 0.4 201/08/2003 35 25 0.06 0.7 201/09/2003 42 33 0.00 0.0 001/10/2003 53 33 0.00 0.0 001/11/2003 44 23 0.00 0.0 001/12/2003 34 22 0.00 0.0 001/13/2003 37 21 0.00 0.0 001/14/2003 41 19 0.00 0.0 001/15/2003 31 20 0.00 0.0 001/16/2003 31 16 0.00 0.0 001/17/2003 30 16 0.04 0.6 101/18/2003 33 4 0.00 0.0 T01/19/2003 23 4 0.00 0.0 T01/20/2003 29 10 0.00 0.0 T01/21/2003 35 12 0.00 0.0 T01/22/2003 28 10 0.00 0.0 T01/23/2003 25 7 0.00 0.0 T01/24/2003 21 7 0.00 0.0 T01/25/2003 30 8 0.00 0.0 001/26/2003 31 15 0.00 0.0 001/27/2003 32 11 0.05 0.6 101/28/2003 19 5 0.00 0.0 T01/29/2003 25 10 0.02 0.2 T01/30/2003 31 16 0.09 1.1 101/31/2003 35 18 0.00 0.0 T02/01/2003 35 32 0.03 0.0 002/02/2003 38 31 0.02 0.0 002/03/2003 47 31 0.00 0.0 002/04/2003 51 31 0.01 0.0 002/05/2003 48 29 0.16 0.0 002/06/2003 36 15 0.00 0.0 002/07/2003 31 16 0.31 3.7 402/08/2003 34 8 0.22 2.5 502/09/2003 30 10 0.00 0.0 502/10/2003 38 15 0.00 0.0 302/11/2003 36 17 0.10 1.3 402/12/2003 27 11 0.00 0.0 402/13/2003 34 14 0.00 0.0 402/14/2003 27 4 0.00 0.0 302/15/2003 32 17 0.00 0.0 302/16/2003 27 9 0.00 0.0 302/17/2003 21 10 1.08 13.0 1502/18/2003 27 21 0.66 7.9 1802/19/2003 32 15 T T 1802/20/2003 42 18 T T 1402/21/2003 49 18 0.00 0.0 1202/22/2003 49 17 0.14 0.0 1102/23/2003 39 35 2.06 0.0 802/24/2003 44 23 0.21 0.0 702/25/2003 37 24 0.00 0.0 602/26/2003 33 16 T T 502/27/2003 24 19 0.00 0.0 502/28/2003 32 23 0.01 T 403/01/2003 39 28 0.00 0.0 403/02/2003 39 31 0.09 0.0 303/03/2003 44 13 0.79 T 303/04/2003 23 10 0.00 0.0 303/05/2003 41 17 0.21 0.0 303/06/2003 53 33 0.39 0.0 103/07/2003 33 12 0.46 0.4 103/08/2003 31 14 0.00 0.0 T03/09/2003 52 26 0.00 0.0 T03/10/2003 53 19 0.00 0.0 T03/11/2003 31 15 0.00 0.0 T03/12/2003 39 25 0.00 0.0 003/13/2003 54 33 0.00 0.0 003/14/2003 50 22 0.12 0.0 003/15/2003 40 23 0.00 0.0 003/16/2003 57 29 0.00 0.0 003/17/2003 71 35 T 0.0 003/18/2003 72 45 0.00 0.0 003/19/2003 67 37 0.00 0.0 003/20/2003 47 34 T 0.0 003/21/2003 58 37 1.12 0.0 003/22/2003 67 47 0.40 0.0 003/23/2003 67 41 0.00 0.0 003/24/2003 62 36 0.00 0.0 003/25/2003 62 35 0.00 0.0 003/26/2003 69 37 0.00 0.0 003/27/2003 71 35 0.33 0.0 003/28/2003 64 35 0.00 0.0 003/29/2003 60 48 0.00 0.0 003/30/2003 76 43 0.55 0.0 003/31/2003 44 29 0.14 T 004/01/2003 44 26 T T 004/02/2003 44 29 0.11 0.0 004/03/2003 60 41 0.01 0.0 004/04/2003 57 40 T 0.0 004/05/2003 42 37 0.08 0.0 004/06/2003 43 34 0.03 0.0 004/07/2003 50 36 0.00 0.0 004/08/2003 37 31 0.60 5.4 404/09/2003 36 32 0.02 0.0 204/10/2003 39 34 0.34 0.0 004/11/2003 49 36 0.07 0.0 004/12/2003 46 39 0.68 0.0 004/13/2003 70 43 0.08 0.0 004/14/2003 63 35 0.00 0.0 004/15/2003 62 34 0.00 0.0 004/16/2003 80 45 0.00 0.0 004/17/2003 87 43 0.00 0.0 004/18/2003 44 36 0.02 0.0 004/19/2003 46 37 0.00 0.0 004/20/2003 61 38 0.00 0.0 004/21/2003 65 36 0.00 0.0 004/22/2003 61 39 0.10 0.0 004/23/2003 70 44 T 0.0 004/24/2003 51 40 0.00 0.0 004/25/2003 63 38 0.00 0.0 004/26/2003 65 48 0.26 0.0 004/27/2003 58 47 0.21 0.0 004/28/2003 73 40 0.00 0.0 004/29/2003 80 41 0.00 0.0 004/30/2003 77 48 0.03 0.0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masomenos Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 April 03 was an incredible month. How often do you go from 6" of snow and 30s to near 90 degree temps a week later? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Epic winter, BDR might make a run at 70-80 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 So far I'll call it a B+, with potential for an A- if we get one more march storm. The full A is almost out of reach only because of no snow for most of December and January, although I did get a 24" storm in Lake Placid at the end of december, so that made up for alot of my missing snow down here, and why the grade is still high. The suprise on Friday for me was actually better than the Blizzard, the blizzard everyone saw coming, and then getting dryslotted for 2 hours kind of took the fun off of that parade(don't get me wrong, it was still a great storm, just not the epicness that it could have been and for many was), but last friday's storm was unexpected, there's nothing more fun than expecting 4-6"(and people said I was being bullish for that), and ending up with 10", it makes it so much more fun to be a suprise, and for that reason, that storm alone brings the grade up from a C+ to B+. Now, if we can verify the 0z EURO verbatim, I might have to think about an A, but for now, tenative B+, if we get another snow event of significance(4" or more), I'll call it an A-, for an A, I need to see another 12"+ storm. -skisheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 This winter....I'd have to give a B so far. Can't give it higher because then what would that make other seasons that occurred in the past 10 years with our area jackpotting in snowfalls ? A+++++?.....anyway....this season so far we've had long duration cold, check....major snowfall, check....several light snowfall from clippers, check....snowfall out of season in November, check.....HURRICANE right before the November snowfall, check!.....overall this past 5-6 months has been an INCREDIBLE period of weather for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Picked up an additional 1.3" today and another snow cover day in march totaling 3. This is nice but does not merit any grade change. We're still a solid B although a few more of these or a 3" accumulating event would most certainly bump things up to a B+ manly because that would push the 40" mark. If that were to happen, this would be the first 40"+ winter without an A grade. It would take some serious March 1958 dumpage for that to happen. I've had 13 separate snow events this season. Only three of these exceeded 6". Not one of the remaining 10 events exceeded 2". The total snow of 37.1" is cool, but the manor in which it took to get there was rather pathetic, hence the B grade. Lack of real cold and snow cover duration withstanding, I don't weight these factors much. It's usually pretty warm here anyway compared IAH or ORH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 I made my post bemoaning the end of winter WAY too early...we've had 10" of snow since that point and are staring down the barrel of a potentially historic cold spell as well as two snowstorms, the SW flow event Monday night and the possible coastal next weekend. Crazy to think how March has delivered after so many duds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchel Volk Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 C+ to B- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momza Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 C+ to B- Yes and room for improvement ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 B- We got shafted up this way with February 8th compared to the rest of the area. I think we wound up with 8 or 9 while places on Long Island got over 30. It was nice to get a lot of smaller events and to have pretty much a never ending train of storms to watch on the models, despite the fact that many of them never panned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Amazing what a little blocking will do even in March... So far this month, we have had a 6-10" event, a C-1" clipper, and a 2-5" overrunning, with possibly more on the way... Still a C+, but one more decent storm were talking B-/B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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