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May 24 Plains/MW Severe Threat


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Taking a look at the operational and experimental RUC progs out to the end of their cycles, it appears they lend credence to concerns over backing upper flow. To my eye, both look more similar to the GFS than the NAM in their H5 flow pattern by 22z. Starting to find it hard to believe things won't get messy fast N of about an END-SWO line, and rethinking my initial plan to start out near the state line. Damn, closed lows blow.

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This is a MAJOR concern of mine, would like to seee more of an open wave.

That ha happened so many times in KS this year, its ridiculous how many times it has.

Yeah, a similar example of that was on 5/11 of this year in Kansas. Early morning convection made the setup crap to begin with, but when stuff did fire near Dodge City, it went up, then died out shortly thereafter. Same backed winds aloft may have led to CAA and sinking motion, so your parcels didnt rise. Not to mention on this map below, the area near DDC was in the LR Entrance region of the jet streak leading to sinking air.

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going be a record number of chasers tomorrow...most ever. Worst I have seen was 5/19 last year and in northwest MO on 6/7/09. I hate to say it but one of these days, chasers are going be stuck in traffic and a tornado is going to hit them.

No kidding, im kinda glad im not going, since its going to be a giant clusterF down there. TWC and Discovery have really made it look like its easy, and anyone can do it, so we get more and more chasers out there each year. Like you said, one day a bunch of chasers are gonna get killed because of this.

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Yeah, a similar example of that was on 5/11 of this year in Kansas. Early morning convection made the setup crap to begin with, but when stuff did fire near Dodge City, it went up, then died out shortly thereafter. Same backed winds aloft may have led to CAA and sinking motion, so your parcels didnt rise. Not to mention on this map below, the area near DDC was in the LR Entrance region of the jet streak leading to sinking air.

Yea subsidence has also ruined several set ups this year in the plains as well, or what I suspected was subsidence leading to busts.

Just not a plains year it seems.

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Will be intersting to see if WIchita is included in the HIgh Risk that is inevitably coming.

i would be shocked if it wasn't... I think the biggest risk will be more over Oklahoma but Wichita for sure would likely be in the high risk, that is if SPC puts out one, which is very likely IMO

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ACUS01 KWNS 240601

SWODY1

SPC AC 240559

DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

1259 AM CDT TUE MAY 24 2011

VALID 241200Z - 251200Z

...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTH CENTRAL

AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS SWD INTO PARTS OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN

OKLAHOMA...

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST

KANSAS...CENTRAL AND EASTERN OKLAHOMA...AND INTO WESTERN ARKANSAS...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NEW ENGLAND SWD TO THE

MID-ATLANTIC REGION...AND WWD INTO THE PLAINS...

..SYNOPSIS

WITH CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT TO PERSIST ACROSS THE NORTHEAST U.S. AND

ERN CANADA...A STRENGTHENING MID-LEVEL SYSTEM -- ACCOMPANIED BY

70-PLUS KT MID-LEVEL JET -- IS FORECAST TO EMERGE INTO THE CENTRAL

AND SRN PLAINS. BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...A DEEPENING UPPER LOW IS

FORECAST ACROSS THE KS VICINITY -- WITH A 75 KT MID-LEVEL JET AROUND

THE SRN PERIPHERY OF THIS SYSTEM.

AT THE SURFACE...A COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE ADVANCING ACROSS ERN

CANADA...MOVING EWD INTO NEW ENGLAND THROUGH THE AFTERNOON BUT

BECOMING MORE WASHED OUT ACROSS THE MIDWEST/OH VALLEY WITH TIME.

FARTHER W...A LEE LOW IS FORECAST TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY EWD/NEWD

ACROSS KS/OK...BUT SHOULD STRENGTHEN THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AS THE

UPPER LOW DEEPENS. BY LATE AFTERNOON...A DRYLINE WILL EXTEND SWD

ACROSS CENTRAL OK/CENTRAL TX AND A COMPOSITE WARM FRONT/OUTFLOW

BOUNDARY SHOULD EXTEND SEWD ACROSS SRN KS/ERN OK AND INTO AR. THIS

SURFACE SYSTEM WILL BECOME A FOCUS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A

POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK FOCUSED ON KS/OK/WRN

AR THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING HOURS.

..CENTRAL AND SRN PLAINS

A REGIONAL OUTBREAK OF SEVERE STORMS -- INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL FOR

VERY LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS...AND SEVERAL LARGE/STRONG

TORNADOES IS EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS THE POWERFUL

UPPER JET EMERGES INTO THE PLAINS DRIVING SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS.

ELEVATED STORMS MAY BE ONGOING ACROSS PARTS OF NRN KS AND NEB AT THE

START OF THE PERIOD...WHILE A CAPPED WARM SECTOR HINDERS STORM

DEVELOPMENT INTO THE AFTERNOON HOURS. BY MID AFTERNOON...SURFACE

DEWPOINTS IN THE 60S TO NEAR 70 COMBINED WITH DAYTIME HEATING AND AN

EWD SPREAD OF VERY STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES ATOP THE WARM SECTOR

WILL RESULT IN A VERY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT...WITH 100 MB MIXED-LAYER

CAPE VALUES EXCEEDING 3000 TO 4000 J/KG ACROSS PARTS OF OK/KS AND

INTO WRN AR E OF THE LOW/DRYLINE.

AS THE UPPER JET AND ASSOCIATED/DEEPENING UPPER SYSTEM EMERGE...A

SLOWLY WEAKENING CAP SHOULD RESULT IN STORM INITIATION BY LATE

AFTERNOON...FROM CENTRAL KS SWD INTO CENTRAL TX NEAR THE SURFACE LOW

AND SWD ALONG THE DRYLINE. WITH MODERATE/BACKED LOW-LEVEL FLOW

AHEAD OF THE SURFACE LOW VEERING AND INCREASING RAPIDLY THROUGH THE

LOWER TROPOSPHERE TO SWLY AT 50 TO 60 KT AT MID LEVELS...SHEAR VERY

SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH MID-LEVEL AND LOW-LEVEL ROTATION WILL ALLOW

STORMS TO RAPIDLY BECOME SUPERCELLULAR. VERY LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING

WINDS...AND SEVERAL POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT TORNADOES APPEAR LIKELY

AS THE STORMS INCREASE AND SPREAD ACROSS KS/OK INTO WRN AR AND THEN

LATER INTO WRN MO.

WHILE STORMS DEVELOPING SWD ACROSS CENTRAL TX ALONG THE DRYLINE

SHOULD EVENTUALLY BEGIN DIMINISHING DURING THE EVENING AS BOUNDARY

LAYER STABILIZATION/CAPPING BECOME REESTABLISHED...WIDESPREAD STORMS

AND ASSOCIATED SEVERE POTENTIAL WILL CONTINUE INTO THE OVERNIGHT

HOURS ACROSS KS/ERN OK/MO/AR. SLIGHTLY ELEVATED STORMS SHOULD ALSO

INCREASE INTO NEB/IA AND VICINITY...ALONG WITH SOME ACCOMPANYING

SEVERE THREAT.

...NEW ENGLAND SWD TO THE MID-ATLANTIC AND WWD INTO THE OH/TN/MID MS

VALLEYS...

SHOWERS AND SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS MAY BE ONGOING AT THE START OF

THE PERIOD...AND AS AIRMASS DESTABILIZES AHEAD OF THE SURFACE COLD

FRONT AWAY FROM LINGERING CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION...EXPECT CONVECTION

TO REDEVELOP/INTENSIFY THROUGH THE AFTERNOON.

THE BELT OF STRONGEST FLOW ALOFT IS FORECAST TO REMAIN S OF THE OH

RIVER...BUT INSTABILITY MAY BE MORE LIMITED ACROSS PARTS OF THIS

REGION DEPENDING UPON THE EVOLUTION OF AN ONGOING BOW APPROACHING

THE MID MS VALLEY REGION ATTM. OVERALL...EXPECT BROAD/WIDESPREAD

ZONE OF SEVERE POTENTIAL NEAR AND SE OF THE COLD FRONT...WITH

STRONGEST STORMS WITHIN MULTIPLE BANDS OF CONVECTION CAPABLE OF

PRODUCING HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS.

..GOSS.. 05/24/2011

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VALID 241200Z - 251200Z

...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTH CENTRAL

AND SOUTHEAST KANSAS SWD INTO PARTS OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN

OKLAHOMA...

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST

KANSAS...CENTRAL AND EASTERN OKLAHOMA...AND INTO WESTERN ARKANSAS...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM NEW ENGLAND SWD TO THE

MID-ATLANTIC REGION...AND WWD INTO THE PLAINS...

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I'm personally leaning towards Wednesday becoming a high risk as well. My feeling is that the LLJ strength and the backing of the surface winds are both being underestimated. Also, we've already seen the scenario at least a couple times this year where an embedded vort max within the large-scale trough triggers a secondary low/trough which amplifies the low-level jet. It'll be interesting to see whether that occurs during Wednesday's event as well.

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As far as the Tuesday event, if I had to pick out a target area, it'd be the southern half of the High Risk area, roughly in a swath centered along the I-40 corridor. Given the uncertainties regarding the back-veer-back wind profile especially as you go north, I feel that this area has the parameters supportive of significant/violent tornadoes.

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I'm personally leaning towards Wednesday becoming a high risk as well. My feeling is that the LLJ strength and the backing of the surface winds are both being underestimated. Also, we've already seen the scenario at least a couple times this year where an embedded vort max within the large-scale trough triggers a secondary low/trough which amplifies the low-level jet. It'll be interesting to see whether that occurs during Wednesday's event as well.

Agreed, I made a forecast yesterday that both days would end up as high risk days.

1/2 correct now.

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I'm personally leaning towards Wednesday becoming a high risk as well. My feeling is that the LLJ strength and the backing of the surface winds are both being underestimated. Also, we've already seen the scenario at least a couple times this year where an embedded vort max within the large-scale trough triggers a secondary low/trough which amplifies the low-level jet. It'll be interesting to see whether that occurs during Wednesday's event as well.

you like read my mind! we have seen that quite a bit and usually results in significant severe weather when coupled with an unstable air mass and intense upper level dynamics. April 27th had the secondary low development and potent low level jet. wed will most likely not reach the magnitude that tmrw will but like we saw in Joplin, it just takes one tornado to change lives forever.

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Not a huge fan of the chasing terrain of Day 2, but maybe that means less chasers! :lmao:

Well, this is only about 5 miles to my north. The view gets hampered a little when the corn matures but still very nice.

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Those are some of the best visibility shots but overall the area is pretty good.

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As far as the Tuesday event, if I had to pick out a target area, it'd be the southern half of the High Risk area, roughly in a swath centered along the I-40 corridor. Given the uncertainties regarding the back-veer-back wind profile especially as you go north, I feel that this area has the parameters supportive of significant/violent tornadoes.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Looking at the latest RUC out to 23z, I'd place my bullseye on a 50-mile radius around END. The low-level jet appears markedly stronger and more backed here than along and S of I-40, while mid-level flow is still roughly SW. Even so, your target has the advantage of firehose flow in the mid- and upper-levels.

On a side note, storms just re-initiated over portions of central OK. Coverage is fairly low right now, and so long as they move out and/or dissipate relatively quickly, this shouldn't have too much influence on tomorrow.

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Actually could be a worse day possibly on Wednesday if we get that secondary low to develop. Remember the 26th was the day everyone was really talking about when then during the evening we all realized that evening that the 27th was going to be one epic day. Still I think the shear numbers alone blow away what we will see Wednesday. Idk ever seeing that much CAPE and EHI's in the teens

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Tulsa is mentioning dangerous and potentially life threatening situation evolving for later today but also reports current hydro issues this early AM. I assume flash flooding would subside by later but chasers might still be affected in ne OK.

DANGEROUS FLASH FLOODING IS ONGOING OVER NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND

NORTHWEST ARKANSAS. TORRENTIAL RAINFALL OF UP TO 10 INCHES HAS

FALLEN IN SOME PLACES AND NUMEROUS ROADS ACROSS THIS REGION ARE

IMPASSABLE. SEVERAL RIVERS ARE EITHER FORECAST TO BE AT MAJOR

FLOOD STAGE OR ARE ALREADY THERE ACROSS NORTHEAST OKLAHOMA AND

NORTHWEST ARKANSAS.

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