ArtRosen Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I wonder if we'll escape May without a 90 degree reading in NYC? If so, this would be the first time in my memory that NYC hasn't reached 90 degrees in April OR May. What are Summers usually like with years that experience this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I wonder if we'll escape May without a 90 degree reading in NYC? If so, this would be the first time in my memory that NYC hasn't reached 90 degrees in April OR May. What are Summers usually like with years that experience this? It's happened many times...last time was 2008... my spring climate stat post has the max for every spring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 It's happened many times...last time was 2008... my spring climate stat post has the max for every spring... http://www.americanw...-climate-stats/ Have we had any summers with 30+ 90+ degree days without any 90+ degree days in April or May? I think 1993 only had 1 (in May) and we still ended up with 39 90+ degree days at NYC (record tied.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Have we had any summers with 30+ 90+ degree days without any 90+ degree days in April or May? I think 1993 only had 1 (in May) and we still ended up with 39 90+ degree days at NYC (record tied.) 1966 and 1983... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 1966 and 1983... Two of my favorites..... 1983 was very wet also. 1966 extremely dry.... polar opposites in every way but the lack of early 90 degree days lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter13 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 It's happened many times...last time was 2008... my spring climate stat post has the max for every spring... http://www.americanw...-climate-stats/ 2008 featured one of the biggest June heat waves of all time. mids 90s and humid from the 6th to 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 2008 featured one of the biggest June heat waves of all time. mids 90s and humid from the 6th to 10th. Ditto 1984; and I don't think we hit 90 in April or May that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Ditto 1984; and I don't think we hit 90 in April or May that year. Early heat sounds like the theme of this summer if you go with some of the year after big summer analogs like 1984, 1994 and 1996. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 I wonder if we'll escape May without a 90 degree reading in NYC? If so, this would be the first time in my memory that NYC hasn't reached 90 degrees in April OR May. What are Summers usually like with years that experience this? Your memory is extremely short. Years with no 90s before June 1 at Central Park: 2008 2006 2005 2004 2003 1999 1998 1997 1995 1989 1985 1984 1983 1982 1981 1973 1972 1971 1968 1967 1966 1963 1961 1960 1958 1957 1956 1954 1952 1950 1948 1947 1946 1945 1943 1940 1938 1935 1928 1926 1924** This year featured no temperatures of 75 or greater before June 1. 1923 1922 1921 1920 1917 1916 1913 1912 1911 1910 1909 1908 1907 1905 1904 1903 1902 1901 1899 1898 1897 1894 1893 1892 1891 1890 1888 1887 1886 1885 1884 1883 1882 1879 1878 1877 1876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Yes, Ray, not having 90 degree days before June 1st is the norm rather than the exception. Even some of our very hot summers didn't see 90 in met spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 1966, 1983, 1995 and 1999 really stand out in that list lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 1966, 1983, 1995 and 1999 really stand out in that list lol. Contrariwise many of our hot springs were followed by disappointing summers. The ones I can think of offhand are 1967, 1969, 1979, 1990, 1992 and 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Contrariwise many of our hot springs were followed by disappointing summers. The ones I can think of offhand are 1967, 1969, 1979, 1990, 1992 and 2000. add 76 to that list. I Still think we have a shot at at least 80 and maybe 90 before June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I wonder if we'll escape May without a 90 degree reading in NYC? If so, this would be the first time in my memory that NYC hasn't reached 90 degrees in April OR May. What are Summers usually like with years that experience this? 90 is freakin hot. i bet there's a lot of years where we havent hit 90 by july 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 90 is freakin hot. i bet there's a lot of years where we havent hit 90 by july 1 Yea given the immediate coastal location of NYC I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case either. Look at even LAST summer, the freaking inferno that it was: We hit 92 on April 7 (I remember this day. I was still living in Philly but was up in the city for a job interview, just walking around thinking holy hell what kind of place is this where it is in the 90s in early april). Then we didn't hit 90 again until May 26 (92/65 that day). The next 90 after that wasn't until a month later, June 24, where we hit 92. (We did hit 89 three times before that however). However by this point the furnace was going full blast. I wouldn't be surprised if we get close to 90 by month's end this year. Once the cut-off pulls away, we'll probably torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 latest 90 degree day in NYC... 1877...7/26 1985...7/14 1960...7/12 1916...7/12 1926...7/09 1902...7/09 1982...7/08 1935...7/06 1897...7/05 1928...7/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 90 is freakin hot. i bet there's a lot of years where we havent hit 90 by july 1 Not recently... Years when it hasn't hit 90 by July 1: 1985 1982 1972 1960 1958 1935 1928 1926 1917 1916 1911 1903 1902 1897 1886 1878 1877 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 90 is freakin hot. i bet there's a lot of years where we havent hit 90 by july 1 The average high is only in the upper 60s/low 70s for most of May; even in the midst of summer, our average highs are around 85-86F. So it's not a surprise we haven't hit 90F yet, especially considering it's a La Niña spring which tends to be a bit chiller. Overall, though, temperatures will probably average slightly above normal for this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Typically even here on Long Island we usually hit 90 in early or mid June.... the ocean is warm enough by then that there usually isnt a pronounced sea breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The average high is only in the upper 60s/low 70s for most of May; even in the midst of summer, our average highs are around 85-86F. So it's not a surprise we haven't hit 90F yet, especially considering it's a La Niña spring which tends to be a bit chiller. Overall, though, temperatures will probably average slightly above normal for this spring. Average long term 1870-2009 max... March. 68.1 April....80.8 May....87.5 June...92.7 July.....95.4 Aug.....93.3 Sept....89.2 Oct.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Big winter incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 add 76 to that list. I Still think we have a shot at at least 80 and maybe 90 before June. I also forgot about 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 latest 90 degree day in NYC... 1877...7/26 1985...7/14 1960...7/12 1916...7/12 1926...7/09 1902...7/09 1982...7/08 1935...7/06 1897...7/05 1928...7/04 I don't think we hit 90 in 1972 before mid-July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I don't think we hit 90 in 1972 before mid-July. 91 on July 2nd, 1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 this will be a moot point if the 00z euro is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easternsnowman Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 this will be a moot point if the 00z euro is right I think the odds went up that there will be no 90's for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I think the odds went up that there will be no 90's for awhile. 12z ECM shows 20C 850s at Day 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 12z ECM shows 20C 850s at Day 9. day 9 in the summer is no better than day 9 in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 day 9 in the summer is no better than day 9 in the winter. While true, a pattern favorable for a heat wave is more likely to actually bring a heat wave than a pattern favorable for a big snowstorm is likely to bring a big snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 While true, a pattern favorable for a heat wave is more likely to actually bring a heat wave than a pattern favorable for a big snowstorm is likely to bring a big snowstorm. True, a heat wave is better compared to a cold wave, not a snow storm lol. I don't know what the summer equivalent to a snowstorm would be..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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