Sundog Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 True, a heat wave is better compared to a cold wave, not a snow storm lol. I don't know what the summer equivalent to a snowstorm would be..... With that much lead time you might as well compare the snowstorm to a hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 With that much lead time you might as well compare the snowstorm to a hurricane. I was thinking that too.... except those are usually in the fall lol. How much lead time was he talking about? Could we compare them to a severe weather outbreak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 While true, a pattern favorable for a heat wave is more likely to actually bring a heat wave than a pattern favorable for a big snowstorm is likely to bring a big snowstorm. I was only speaking of temperature, not sure how you get that I was speaking of snow storms except that you were somehow trying to make it seem like I was so you could get some funny responses. This is a temperature thread, and there is no bettter skill at predicting warm temps over cold temps in the models or humans as far as I know. 9 days is an eternity in the weather world for any type of forecasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I was only speaking of temperature, not sure how you get that I was speaking of snow storms except that you were somehow trying to make it seem like I was so you could get some funny responses. This is a temperature thread, and there is no bettter skill at predicting warm temps over cold temps in the models or humans as far as I know. 9 days is an eternity in the weather world for any type of forecasting. You imply something which is not the case. I'm pointing out that the models are much better at patterns than individual events, so saying that its "day 9" doesn't mean progged heat should be dismissed in the same vein as if they were showing a snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrials Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 You imply something which is not the case. I'm pointing out that the models are much better at patterns than individual events, so saying that its "day 9" doesn't mean progged heat should be dismissed in the same vein as if they were showing a snowstorm. I think you are misunderstanding my summer winter comparison. Im saying that if we are to view 9 day temp or pattern forecasts with skepticism in the winter then we need to do the same in the summer. This would not be the first time this spring the models started to pump the heat in our area only to be trumped by low clouds or cutoff lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I think you are misunderstanding my summer winter comparison. Im saying that if we are to view 9 day temp or pattern forecasts with skepticism in the winter then we need to do the same in the summer. This would not be the first time this spring the models started to pump the heat in our area only to be trumped by low clouds or cutoff lows. I wonder how model verification changes with the seasons. It would seem that they do better in summer than winter due to fewer storms and complex frontal and phasing situations...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclonicjunkie Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Years with no 90s before June 1 at Central Park: 1924** This year featured no temperatures of 75 or greater before June 1. 1923 1922 My goodness, thats quite anomalous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 My goodness, thats quite anomalous it's five degrees colder than the next coldest Spring Max...So far 2011's Spring max in the city is 83...The last time it was this low (if it stands up) was in 1997... 2011....83 1997....83 1958....82 1950....82 1968....82 1967....81 1882....80 1928....80 1924....75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 it's five degrees colder than the next coldest Spring Max...So far 2011's Spring max in the city is 83...The last time it was this low (if it stands up) was in 1997... 2011....83 1997....83 1958....82 1950....82 1968....82 1967....81 1882....80 1928....80 1924....75 Today's max was 84. Likely to be warmer in the next week at least once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Today's max was 84. Likely to be warmer in the next week at least once. Monday may be the warmest day in this stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Today's max was 84. Likely to be warmer in the next week at least once. we'll add 2 days of 90 to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 we'll add 2 days of 90 to the list Good, it's about time.... I wish May had 32 days because then we'd be adding 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 we'll add 2 days of 90 to the list Fail. Max at the park this month will be 89. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Fail. Max at the park this month will be 89. First of many im sure. 14 last summer alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 First of many im sure. 14 last summer alone. FWIW, LGA's max will be less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Max was 88F on Monday here in Monmouth County. Not too surprising given the less urbanized landscape of the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Fail. Max at the park this month will be 89. Doubtful it will even make 89 lol. Mine was 87 today, 86 yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Doubtful it will even make 89 lol. Mine was 87 today, 86 yesterday. http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/OKX/CLINYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 http://www.srh.noaa....data/OKX/CLINYC Ah, I didn't see that..... wasn't really around today and when I was the highest I saw them at was 86. When I checked in at like 5 PM they were already down in the low 80s lol. So it happened around 2 PM before the sea breeze came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 we'll add 2 days of 90 to the list 2 days late and $2 short, the park has finally touched 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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