NorthArlington101

Nope, probably not! This is a national emergency. Rights and freedoms are greater limited in these times. There is centuries-old precedent to support such measures. Shutting down large gatherings in a time of a pandemic... really a fantastic idea. Let’s not go straight to conspiracy.

I’ve definitely seen people arguing the constitutionality of these prohibitions online. People apparently haven’t taken enough Constitutional Law to know that every right can be limited... the First Amendment included. Not gonna win a Freedom of Assembly case during a national emergency.

Beyond frustrating. No economic stimulus seems to help — the market knows what’s coming. Just gonna have to ride it out and watch it hit the floor.

Bars and restaurants will be closed everywhere by the end of this week. Illinois and Ohio just shut them all down starting 9pm tonight. Other states will likely follow.

if people haven’t registered that we are going into an Italy/Spain/China style lockdown within the next 1-2 weeks... they are gonna be in for a shock.

Listen, people can live their lives however they want. All that you have to know is by not changing your habits, you making it possible for the disease to better spread through your community. Go through the Washington Post simulation I posted earlier for a visual demonstration. Will you die by going out to Starbucks? You almost surely won’t. However, it remains unnecessary — get a freaking Keurig.

Asymptomatic transmission seems possible, FWIW. But “social distancing” with a larger group is possible, as long as everyone holds up their end of the bargain and actually only hangs out with people in that group. It takes one person to screw it up.

If you got the sec, please read/watch this fantastic article. If you don’t get why they want people to stay indoors, I don’t know what’ll convince you.

What do you define as kids? I was (and still an) particularly non-rebellious, so if my parents told me to stay inside, I would. I could have video games to play if I craved social interaction. [emoji14]My mom is telling my 16 year old sister to stay inside and to not hang out with friends, so she will. Isn’t the job of parents to keep their kids safe? I guess if older kids are going to climb out the windows and not listen to their parents, you’re right, the issue isn’t completely solved. Still better than having 500-3,000 of them locked in a small school building.

Yep! Thanks for the assist. I shouldn’t write posts two minutes after I wake up. Having a virus run through a school system is the fastest way to make sure it ends up absolutely everywhere in the community. Kids spread germs like crazy, and in the case of these disease especially they are likely carriers. Shutting down the schools will not cause a spike.

Going to disagree with your above points. Shutting down the schools has the effect of not having kids spread things to teachers, janitorial staff, and other kids. It is largely up to parents to wrangle their children and make them wash their hands/keep them home (which is their job in many ways!) — keeping them home 100% decreases virus spread. Why do you think kids stay home from school when sick originally? To decrease the spread of illness and put them in a better spot to recover. When I was sick in K-12 (only a couple years ago) I would stay home as to rest and drink lots of fluids. The whole point of social distancing is to make sure that if you are going to infect someone, it is only your family.

GEFS wants absolutely none of it.

I’m not taking about the number of people dying (though ultimately, I am), it is the absolute overwhelming of hospitals. I think at this point it’s clear we are gonna agree to disagree though so I’ll drop it!

really???

Even so, this is so easy. Look at what is happening in Lombardy. Look at what happened in Wuhan. Nothing near that happened anywhere during Swine Flu.

Quick math... that is a fatality rate of 0.02%. What is the low-bar estimate on Coronavirus fatalities? .5-1% of cases — albeit with symptoms noticeable enough to get diagnosed. That rate becomes much, much higher when a bunch of cases appear in one area, which is why things get shut down. What is happening in Lombardy isn’t fake... I don’t understand why people continually seek to minimize the severity of this issue. And for the record, schools definitely closed for swine flu. Obviously things weren’t cancelled at this level. But swine flu was much less severe, and potentially less contagious. People really think famous NBA players, UK and Brazilian government officials, Tom Hanks, and the wife of Justin Trudeau are randomly getting the virus while common folk remain unaffected? Hint: it’s already everywhere, these guys just have the clout to get rushed tests. Maybe that is a good sign that the fatality number might be lower, but given the number of vulnerable people... why not shut things down?

dunno about you, but I’ve been impressed with the fairly rapid speed we’ve managed to socially distance in the past 48 hours. It should have happened weeks ago, and the testing has still been horrendous, but the rapid progress by private companies, state governments, and schools has given me some hope that we are making good progressing on flattening the curve. The virus is almost 100% already in most metropolitan communities, but many people seem to be taking it seriously. I’ve felt a seismic shift amongst my peers in the past few days.

yep. It’s just frustrating. But I definitely plan to buy, just not for probably another three weeks. I’m not optimistic. When we get there, it’s a fire sale!!!!

I’ve got a ton of time (about to turn 20!) but the stock market drops have been painful. Not that I called this in advance, but I thought about pulling out two weeks ago and was advised against it. Feel a little dumb. I’ve got chump change in compared to most of you, but my slush-fund-to-get-me-rich-by-30 is sad. I’m prepared to buy the dip in 2-3 weeks.

about to be the two-year reigning champion! Go Hoos!

bump on the thanks! My rushed messages while on Spring Break (yes, chastise me for my hypocrisy) were not doing it justice.

I’ll drop this soon because it depresses me a bit to talk about it, but it is all about flattening the curve. We need to keep ICU’s and hospitals available for those who need help. It isn’t rocket science to see why it’s best to shut things down for awhile, inconvenience be dammed. See: Spanish Flu. Or check out any of the other hundreds of graphs that say the same thing.

who takes care of the 80+ers? Who gets the caretakers their food? Do they visit their families? Do they go to the grocery store? What about the teenage grocers who will almost 100% be fine but will spread the virus? You can’t just stick 80+ers on an island. Why not mitigate the spread and lower the damage curve? It’s irresponsible to do anything else. Trust me, I feel bad for everyone’s investments. But lives > money here. Tough to convince me otherwise.

Unfortunately, I (and others!) quite like some of the old and sickly — some of whom are my professors, family member, and probably some of you all. I don’t like that my classes are moving online, but social distancing and isolation is hardly a waste of time. We are talking about lives here, people. C’mon now.

welp, there go my in-person classes. At least I’ll be in Arlington for the late-March blizzard!