Typhoon Tip

Another ob that may be real here... I think part of the shear that is still sort of lingering longer than thought during the day ...might be caused by that deep convection that's smearing east off the M/A today.. .Fred's guts subtended just enough cool frontal slope in that region, and that's a detail the models probably were not resolving prior runs/days leading. So, we have -70 cloud tops exploding in linear clusters and that has an an outflow in it's own right -

know why ? ( wait for it - you'll love this one ...) Hadley Cell. I think so. It's shell is beyond our latitude with Henri fully still engulfed inside the non-hydrostatic boundary, it is behaving like a warm atmsophere/cold ocean relic and just starving as opposed to encountering thermodynamic gradients where-by commencing baroclinic physical conversion. Fascinating.

Yeah ..it's been the idiosyncrasy about this thing in model designs all along - refuses to obey planetary physics LOL. No but agreed - quite odd actually.

It's pretty clear ... whomever's near the "6.66" is doomed to hell -

I actually agree with "Snowgoosenaughty69" because the UKMET has a curved bias it has always had imho, dating back to the late 1990s. I still see semblances of it there, lurking in that model's ongoing cinema... So seeing it be the most dramatic in that regard - heh... okay -

Staring at that vis loop ... It's almost like it wants to molt - completely remove/shed the mlv vortex, and after it decouples, the pupa llvs coughs until it explodes new convection and goes on from there.

Ha haha .. this may be the most destructive hurricane to ever impact the NE alright - a hurricane name "Cried Wolf" will destroy any uncertainty regarding weather forecast competency, affectingly removal of any doubt -

The lower level would need to be feeling the steering ... It's not a bad approach to figuring it out but it looks like there's still shear in the mid levels from the NNE. I'm beginning to wonder... we may not see a shear abate from that source as much as perhaps anticipated, but similar to what you allude to ...wait until the llv and mid level convection begin to move along with the SSW flow over the eastern arc of the U/A low closing off, that is window of lowering relative shear. pure speculation.. But as far as what is plainly evidence at this hour, the shear is still hosing this...

Word! This thing looks like shit to me at this hour frankly. I keep seeing a flurry of post about explosions and detonations and go look and heh wtf are we looking at. Nick's post with vis loop - it's hard to argue that the inner sanctum of rotation isn't about to pop right out of the convective foreskin on that NW side. Things can change in a hurry and I am not 86 any forecasts here at all - just the now-cast gripes.

Yeah... time to update/re-install some concern spectrum: ... tornado threat with this spread out over all of SNE and probably the southern half of CNE ... There is a flood concern that is rather obvious shore to rain inland, which depending on where this land falls may be west at first... But if it does slow and meander E through southern VT/NH... that can be 24 hours training water boarding and massive problems if that happens. It's figuratively as though the dramatic "20 minutes" of land falling is 20 % of the crisis -

These land falling systems don't spin up - or tend to ... - the bigger violent types. They tend to be smaller 0 to 2 leveled whisking by. Which 2 can be deadly ...hell, 1 can be deadly. So can be a sunny day if the husband catches you with 'er - But systemically the trade off in violence is the 'swarming' numbers, in that there can be a lot of rad tripped warnings and dangling ropes

Was just about to post this exact couple of sentiments - ..and despite the air of exuberance in mood and posting spin, this is still all based on what ifs - granted, more plausible than 'what isn'ts' but ... storm enthusiasts that want to see their neighbor's property denuded from the face of the planet while leaving theirs ...unscathed with power still entitled and in tact, will need to get some realization of intensity/organization profile cooking here.

This red annotated region in that track wedge may as well mail in the insurance forms now ...cuz that's liable to be one contiguous tornado vortex if this ens mean works out...

It's definitely tactless and insensitive - I'll give it that ...

it's here : https://www.weather.gov/box/1938hurricane

That might actually bring surge waters into downtown Providence in that scenario. I think who's a 1938 aficionado ...I'm almost certain there's a high-water mark around Town Hall that has the 1938 ... I may be fantasizing that ... but, that Buzzard Bay in a bad bad spot for that stream line analysis - heh. Actually edit: that's kind of a weaker system there... well, maybe not. But if a stronger system moving into that position would be -

Which ironically may become "ass - buried" park.

I was just looking at the tide charts for NYC ... Looks like the 8:55 am Sunday tide ..should the west correction become more real, is unfortunately timed rather well with the approach to the coast that morning. If this thing is a category 2 and it is moving headlong, bee-lined into the Bite region on top of that high tide cycle... oy

Eww... If this thing were to RI and expand ( no, that doesn't mean Rhode Island), essentially becoming a very prominent physical reflex in the total synoptic field ... that can and likely would reflect in modeled track guidance. Sucks, this thing's capacity for mayhem is in a sense, hiding in plain site - I large Category 3 hurricane interacts with a weak U/A steering field differently.

Maybe -

You know ... I've spent some time this morning outlining some of the uniqueness vs comparisons to past, re this whole thing. Some semblance in governing synoptic players that in principle are similar to Sandy - but differ in exact orientation and amplitude...etc..etc.. But the uniqueness of this may be slipping away to that sort of nearer term modulation you're demo represents above. That's starting to try and look or 'trend' in a more typical climo set up ...it's not there totally. But trend - interesting...

Okay ...you're talking about something else: impact specifics ... I was just referring to the meteorological shit. Heh... Yeah, I wouldn't care to debate the other popsicle headache discussion. It's subjective to experience making that non-influential, but objectively, there's not likely to be any empirical comparison UNLESS this thing Cat 4's outta nowhere and expands radii and all that... who knows. I lost my internet connection for 20 minutes so -heh, may have missed some of that leading posts. sorry

Mm, the blocking node/-NAO with the U/A capute are very similar - There's a amplitude difference in those conducting large synoptic events, comparing the total manifold of Sandy and this, but in principle they are most certainly similar. A Sandy comparison is not BS - sorry. We can't get cute with exact parametrical comparisons - first of all, that's a snow-flake comparison argument. Second, it only means anything to petty squabbles in the social internet; 90% of the civility between Cape May and CT is not going to engage in pettiness. It came from the E in both cases and fugged up their lives. Science can hyper categorize later on after the dust settles... and probably those quantification efforts would reveal more that 50% likeness -

It's probably a silly subjective 'philosophical' take but... "ages" in that context - in literary circles - just means the impact-affects at cultural scales, incurring changes in modes of thinking therefrom in aftermath, and modality of means. The more so, the greater the 'age' of distinction? In that sense... Cat 1 ... 3 ... 5 means nothing. A stalled tropical storm in Texas in the 1970s dumped 40 " of rain and that changed the climate thinking of what can happen in Texas, and probably ... led/helped constructed Harvey response/understanding at least a little...etc... ( May not be the best example but helps the point - )

The "fanning" characteristic over the entire N outflow at upper levels is more indicative for me. But, in this case it may be 6 a dozen or half another because the better symmetry aloft may in fact be physically tied into that 'pulse' As far as the pulse its self, in a vaccuum it means less to me. We see these flare ups and have along the way, with Henri and every thing in history Lol. I think also we collectively are like carpet surfing crack discard for the petty nugget find to spark off in our pipes ... j/k. I love that metaphor. Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if we are seeing the instensity about to bite down hard over these ensuing 12 hours. I'm a little bit concerned shy of bun-merit for the anecdotal climate of how systems that make it through hostile guanlets and live to strengthen, tend to go a bit crazy - it's almost like they have stored momentum/battery that adds to the environmental favoring, and they like synergistically get a feed-back. interesting...