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  1. Carvers Gap
    12z GFS dropped half a foot over west TN just after 240 and then boomeranged another storm inland into a hybrid ice storm in the mountains.
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    And the 12z Euro was close....really cold Northwest flow look at the end. Again, banter means HUGE grain.
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    12z GFS. LOL. Looks like the dead of winter after d10. If that occurs, it will align with the "early snows equal crap winters" IMBY....the old Halloween snow equals no snow for winter alignment. Hour 252....crazy in terms of snow. End of the run...crazier in terms of temps.
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    I really like the idea of pattern discussion in the Banter Thread. Way more laid back....LOL. Been hurrying up and waiting for like two years in terms of weather. What is weird is that Kentucky games are always cold. Played it earlier this year and tried to full Mother Nature....and she still figured it out. Just give me cold and Dec 5th(as cold as reasonably possible) for the Florida game.
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    On the 6z GEFS and 0z EPS...d10-11 looks nice. That type of deep trough could be mischief in terms of an early season storm. Of course, way out there....but that is the kind of look that could pull a tropical system into something that goes hybrid. Wouldn't be surprised for the mountains to see something around that time frame. It would also fit the pattern of the past few years of early cold and winter precip....and then crap. LOL.
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    My first GFS digital snow at on the 18z run at hour 288.
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    Mainstay looks like some sort of trough over the Aleutians. I think we need to again cast a wary eye on any type of sustained blocking over Greenland. It certainly could happen, but recent modeling seems to have a bias for AN heights there in the LR only to modify duration quickly as reality approaches.
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    Looks like a blend of the GEFS and EPS from Sunday would have been money. Initial trough this weekend, followed by a brief trough out West, and then a shallow trough following in the East. Looks like some really nice weather though on the days which it is sunny.
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    Give me that 12z GFS run in December or January....whew. Chilly.
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    EPS has been "backing-off" the sustained eastern trough for the past couple of runs. Both the GEFS and GEPS have a trough over the Aleutians which the EPS does not. We have seen this dance many times. If the EPS wins this "mini-battle," it would be a rare win during shoulder season but not unprecedented by any means. We have seen this type of head fake many times during the past couple of years(trough east...only to go west), and has already occurred once this fall. It would be interesting to know what is causing that nearly universal error in modeling. Now, I am not saying a trough doesn't come east. I think that happens, and then holds for about a 3-4 days. However, differences emerge after that in regards to the Aleutians after d10. The past three runs of the EPS have been slowly diverging from the Weeklies solution on Thursday. Now, the GEFS and GEPS are not there yet. Normally, I take all comers against the EPS...but during shoulder season, the EPS is not a model that I share a foxhole with, but I rarely discount it. It has "won" too many times to count. That said, the EPS solution right now is slightly suspect as there is a strong EPO ridge and blocking over Greenland, and the thought goes into the northern Rockies. Not sure that teleconnects well, but the lack of Aleutians trough might all for that. With several storms cutting through the Plains, there might be room for severe weather. The 6z GEFS has a trough in the East and also over the Aleutians. For now, I still lean with a trough holding in the East, but it much less certain than a few days ago. If this was winter, I would go with the EPS and not think twice. The EPS has also had problems with not seeing cold in the East during fall. So, lots in play. Happy football Saturday, everyone!
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    @Stovepipe, man, planted some sorghum this year. Crushing it today, and going to boil it down into molasses - I hope! I bought a hand mile. It is kicking my butt. LOL. Doing a nice job of getting that green juice out of the cane, but whew....much respect to our ancestors who figure out a horse or mule was a better source of energy. About 30 minutes into this, I was wondering if I could convert the hand mill over, and just drive my mower around it in circles!!!!
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    To echo The Unknown, the GEFS and EPS are showing both a Pacific and Atlantic in favor of an eastern trough. Whether the mystical NAO can go that negative remains to be seen. LOL. Always seems to weaken as we get closer. Verbatim that is a big block forming around d7-8
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    12z update....Pretty stout PNA ridge and Greenland block showing up on ensembles now - GEPS and EPS in particular. The Euro operational has a pretty massive ridge late in the run. Looks like middle and western areas of the forum are looking at the remnants of the hurricane in the GOM later in the weekend and into next week. Definitely some interesting(and sadly dangerous for the Gulf States) things to watch in the coming days.
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    For kicks and giggles and nothing else, take a look at the block over the Davis Straits on the 0z EPS control @282.
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    Was a fairly noticeable break in continuity beginning at around d8 on the overnight EPS. While not surprising given how far out that time frame is, both the 0z GEFS and EPS have changed how they are handling the eastern ridge/western trough scenario beginning around d8. Instead of lifting a trough out of the West(and re-establishing another trough there), the trough continues eastward and establishes itself in the East. Lots of upstream stuff going on which is causing that. So, basically after d8-9 we begin to see a near reversal of what has been depicted for several days. Will it hold? Absolutely no idea. However, we have seen the EPS miss cold shots during shoulder season in recent years. I have low confidence in the overnight look other than the Weeklies (derived from a warm run yesterday morning) seem to revert to something similar, and have for a couple of runs - the EPS was just about a week quicker on this run. I don't want to write-up a long post, just giving a heads-up that modeling was a bit different overnight in the LR. Wouldn't surprise me to see it revert back, but that is a pretty big move....so worth at least a look when the West Coast trough is replaced with a ridge during the aforementioned time frame. Plenty of time for that to work itself out.
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    CANSIPS is pretty much Windspeed's post above...wall-to-wall. It actually perpetuates next week's pattern shift for about the next five months. LOL. Don't know if that happens, but wouldn't be the first time an AK low was difficult to dislodge. Again, very important to remember that shoulder season modeling is sketchy - and I say that if the modeling output is good or bad.
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    Been quiet in here of late, so I will throw in some recent model observations and thoughts.... Looks like the expected ridge in the middle and eastern areas of NA(as the Euro Weeklies have shown) is likely by the second week of October and indeed fits Nina climatology. Seems like it will be at peak strength by mid-month. The really question is whether it holds or not. Lows in the GOA can be stubborn to move, but the Euro Weeklies do imply that a trough may re-emerge by the end of the month or the beginning of November. Again, it should be noted that the EPS and Euro Weeklies have struggled during the last few fall shoulder seasons. So, take with a HUGE grain of salt. Still, some nice weather on tap. Looks like Jeff may get his wishes with some beautiful weather for the leaf season. Wild card....As that ridge rolls eastward, that might open the door for tropical development. And we know that tropical development during October has yielded some crazy weather here. I would not be shocked if that occurred yet again. Seems to be a pattern of late.
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    Been in the mid 50s all day here. Around midnight it was 67, so the record for today will make it seem warmer than what it actually was. Drizzle, rain, mist....regular rain fest.
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    Great post! Wouldn't bother me a bit if it was in the winter thread or pattern thread.
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    Yeah, not really talking winter in my comments above. Just really looking at Oct and early Nov. Interestingly the 12z EPS AO/NAO couplet is negative for most of the run with not a lot of let-up. That said, it is really important to note(for newcomers) that EPS modeling is notoriously fickle at this time of year, even when there is consensus. What I do see is a GOA low which is going to have to "battle it out" with the AO/NAO couplet on modeling during mid October in order to see the primary driver. If the Nina is moderate, I don't disagree at all on a warm generally warm winter. My thoughts on winter are in the winter thread(I have a warm winter as well), and I don't have many changes at all up to this point. Now, if the Nina is weak AND cools MJO regions just west of the equatorial dateline...that might allow for periods of extreme cold to make it into our forum area. My theme is cold(even severe cold) 2-3 times this winter with long periods of AN temps in between. 1989 was a Nina year that was incredibly cold in December, and broke warm in Jan. It never let up. It can snow like crazy during weak La Nina winters in NE TN with lots of upslope snow. Moderate to strong La Nina's are generally busts.
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    I actually wasn't discouraged in regards to the Euro Weeklies, but I am only a hobbiest so maybe ignorant is bliss! LOL. Looks like the western ridge indeed rolls eastward around the 12th and then ridge gradually rebuilds out West around the 24th with the Aleutian low re-establishing itself after a period of AN heights which coincide with the warmth mid-month in the East. I don't look at Euro temps after week 3...they are nearly always warm. I just look at the 500 pattern. I did notice an area of blocking beginning to re-develop and was centered just north of HB late in the run. Honestly, looks like the high latitude pattern tries to roll forward mid-month and actually retrogrades back to a cooler look at 500 for the East. After listening to Jeff for many years, I have learned that the Weeklies give us a pretty good look at week 3 and have some skill during week 4. After that, just very broad generalizations. So take the reforming Aleutians low and HB block with a huge grain. With shoulder season now in full swing, the Euro Weeklies might struggle. All of that said, a warm time frame during Fall and during La Nina is well within the wheelhouse of climatology. I am actually pretty happy to see summer end on time for once. I will gladly take AN temps during October vs September.
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    Vol football Saturday and basketball season just around the corner. VERY excited about basketball this year. We have some legitimate depth at guard this year, and we all know that is a good mix for the post season.
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    For sure...And going back to last winter, it failed even more than that. Plus it is shoulder season, so plenty of reason for some solid skepticism...see that alliteration? But yeah, looks like it might verify at least in the short term anyway. Each run I am just expecting a correction which means the trough to head into the Mountain West. Sooooo, looks like a period of tough-i-ness followed by a near certain +NAO and SER for winter? Total speculation and just spitballing....If we hold to six week weather cycles which I do as a very rough rule....That gives us a trough until late October, then a ridge for six weeks, and a trough back by the end of December. I mean that kind of looks like what some LR modeling has, especially the Euro seasonal. But I still think we better score by mid-Jan. Looks very shaky after that if one is using both modeling and Nina climatology. That said, I wouldn't be surprised for a pattern with an eastern trough to hang around for some time, and then flip warm right as winter begins. 1989 will forever be remembered for that lesson. Great start...then torch city.
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    Posted this in the obs thread on accident...moved it to here. If you like a -AO, the Euro Weeklies are your huckleberry. Nice amplification still being depicted next week w an eastern trough. Hope that solution holds!!!
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    Especially after the September torch from last year!!!!
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