Buckeye05

Just imagine if the 4/27/2011 surveys were done with the same degree of conservatism that is applied today. There’d be nothing higher than EF4….

Don’t expect any further upgrades. The days of EF5 ratings are over I’d say. For me, this one was the last nail in the coffin for that level of rating being ever being applied again. The part of the meteorological community that is responsible for rating application has pushed the concept of EF5 damage to unobtainable levels.

Yeah Rochelle is in the books as a “200 MPH EF4” as is Chapman, KS 2016.

NWS Paducah now has the Mayfield tornado wind estimate in the high-end EF4 range.

Myself and many other reallllly question that study. It was done by people with zero background or training in the hallmarks of the various intensity levels of tornado damage. Most importantly, the damage to St. John’s is easily the most intense damage to a high-rise building ever documented. It’s underpinning system was damaged beyond repair, and the building was structurally compromised to the point where it had to be demolished. That requires 200+ MPH winds to happen. Period. Any experienced damage surveyor would tell you the same. So even from a strictly engineering based POV, that study is highly questionable, and the notion that no EF5 level structure damage occurred in Joplin just isn’t true.

Not to derail the thread, we may go the rest of out lives without ever seeing a tornado as violent as Smithville ever again. That one was in a league of its own, to the point where you can't really compare it with the "average" EF5. That said, I'd say that Hackleburg-Phil Campbell is probably the closest match to this recent one when it comes to comparing previous EF5 events.

They're talking about the lower left photo. But i'm not totally convinced that photo shows any pavement scouring either.

This is a bunch of overly-dismissive ridiculousness. You aren't saying anything people aren't already aware of. People at this point know how rating damage based on structural integrity and the overall context works.

It isn't. Don't make irresponsible posts like this.

That's the Washburn, IL tornado of 2017 Edit: Whoops, actually the Tipton, OK EF4.

Got another one on the ground near Plumsted, NJ. Strong couplet and TDS.

Damn dude.. Glad you’re alive!

Major couplet and likely TOG coming right at Pella, IA. They were hit by an EF3 in July of 2018.

One of the scariest nights of my life. The only time I've ever actually bailed south in my car to get out of the path.

Seeing pictures of fairly substantial structural damage in Bowie, TX including roof and exterior wall loss. Also hearing reports of mobile homes completely destroyed in town. Not good.

That's actually a fairly intense couplet near Clayton, OK. Wouldn't be surprised if that put down a substantial tornado.

TDS there. Moving through the Jackson, MS suburbs.

That one likely put down a tornado near Bunkie, LA.

Northern cells are going now too. Just keeps getting crazier!

Guilty as charged :p

I'm surprised they didn't get dragged through the mud after that. Nobody really talked about it afterward.

Lol my bad. FFC is what I meant.

Yes. Was a s***show. Anyway enough on that didn't mean to derail the thread.

This was bad, but not as bad as FFC on Easter. Counted at least THREE unwarned TDSs that lasted multiple scans in their forecast area during that event. Was awful. Edit:FFC not FCC lol

This is giving FCC's incompetence during the Easter Outbreak a run for its money. Edit: Neve rmind, they finally warned. Too late though.