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I’ll begin with a reminder that “It’s not over until it’s over”… as those who bore witness to a major winter storm during the early Spring of 1983, can attest. March 24-25, 1983: Thus far, I’ve had difficulty finding details regarding this particular storms development and the specific track of the surface low as it moved briskly NE off the SE coastline. That aside, it was a major winter storm that delivered snow totals of 10-12” to a few locations in GA, SC, and NC. In addition, portions of East Central AL saw amounts up to 6”. Due to its precise track and rapid intensification, the coastal plain of NC received the brunt of the storm. Thundersnow accompanied the heaviest rates and wind gusts of 50-70 mph were fairly common along the shoreline. A peak wind gust of 87 mph was recorded in Carteret County. These strong winds combined with the heavy, wet snow to cause numerous downed trees, widespread power outages, and even some sporadic structural damage. Snowfall Totals: North Carolina: Tarboro, NC: 12.0” Charlotte, NC: 10.3” Edenton, NC: 10.3” Lumberton, NC: 10.0” Mt. Mitchell, NC: 9.0” Tryon, NC: 8.0” Clinton, NC: 8.0” Raleigh, NC: 7.3” Albemarle, NC: 7.2” Elizabeth City, NC: 7.0” Concord, NC: 7.0” Wilson 3 SW, NC: 7.0” Smithfield, NC: 7.0” Greenville, NC: 6.9” Longwood, NC: 6.0” Jackson Springs 5 WNW, NC: 6.0” Ft. Bragg, NC: 6.0” Asheboro, NC: 5.6” Kinston, NC: 5.5” Fayetteville, NC: 5.0” Laurinburg, NC: 5.0” Highlands, NC: 5.0” Washington, NC: 5.0” Wilmington, NC: 5.0” (4.2” at the airport) South Carolina: Catawba, SC: 10.0” Greenville, SC: 9.3” Gaffney 6 E, SC: 8.0” (snow depth on 25th) Santuck, SC: 8.0” Myrtle Beach, SC: 7.0” Antreville, SC: 7.0” Pickens, SC: 7.0” Chester, SC: 7.0” Calhoun Falls, SC: 7.0” Ware Shoals, SC: 7.0” Wallhalla, SC: 6.0” West Pelzer, SC: 5.0” Georgia: Elberton, GA: 10.0” (snow depth on 25th) Athens, GA: 8.7” Atlanta, GA: 7.9” Jonesboro, GA: 6.5” (25th, no data on 24th) Blairsville, GA: 5.5” Alabama: Ashland 3 ENE: 5.8” Heflin, AL: 5.5” Lafayette, AL: 5.0” (snow depth on 24th) References: NC State Climate Office https://products.climate.ncsu.edu/weather/winter/event/?e=104 NWS Climate Database https://www.weather.gov/wrh/Climate?wfo=ilm

Hi everyone, Thought I’d create a catch-all thread to post, and discuss, some of the most significant winter storms to affect the Southeast U.S. states. With that in mind, I intend to share details regarding many of the historic snow storms that have battered the SE…dating as far back as the 19th century. Moreover, I look forward to reading first-hand accounts of the most memorable events you’ve experienced, first-hand.

It does suck, no doubt. But, I’m fully expecting subsequent seasons to produce a reversion to the mean. That’s the way I’m choosing to look at it…and will be eagerly looking forward to seeing its manifestation!

Completely understand the frustration, but I’m a firm believer that any weather event that has occurred in the past will materialize again at some point in the future. Moreover, I suspect it’s also only a matter of time before we return to a more productive climate state (e.g, a cycle similar to the 1980’s). Even so, one still needs to keep things in their proper perspective, given that we do actually live in the “southeast.” For just me personally, I can appreciate that 6” plus events are so relatively rare, as it enhances the significance of them…when they do occur.

This delivered some of the best blizzard conditions I’ve documented on the South coastal areas of Massachusetts. I’ll have to upload that footage at some point to share, here. Was at Plymouth Harbor for that one.

This particular blizzard stands out to me as being one of the most dynamic (electric) systems I’ve experienced, personally. Not only did CT see widespread thundersnow, but I actually documented the occurrence multiple times in both Providence, RI and in Plymouth, MA. A very underrated storm!

29°f light snow 0.9” measured at car dealership in Providence, RI Still driving to Plymouth, MA during this overnight. Will decide after sunrise if or when I might relocate from there.

Here’s the actual text message I received: “I’m hearing some guy on a weather forum, from Philadelphia, went a few blocks from where he lived and assaulted another member for claiming the storm is a bust!!!”

That’s what I said and thought! Insane if true.

I just heard from a member here who told me that another member of this particular forum supposedly went to another members house and assaulted them over them calling this storm a bust. Anyone know who this idiot might happen to be or even if there’s truth to this rumor?

It’s an acronym for the authors of a book on historical winter storms that have affected the NE U.S. In other words, It’s essentially an HECS (Historic East Coast Storm). The probability of this particular event reaching that esteemed category continues to increase, but not yet guaranteed. On a related note: we at least want to avoid an “FU” storm. Seen too many of those over the past 4 years in SNE.

Getting this topic out of the storm thread. Just sharing my own personal preference for old-school football where defenses were allowed to play more physical. Same with the NBA. There’s too much of an advantage offensively in today’s game. Then again, it might be that I’m just getting older…making me “old school.”Lol. Turning 52 in May. Where has time gone? Crazy!

Couldn’t agree more! I desperately want an opportunity to resume chasing an HECS or significant blizzard in SNE or even NNE. Haven’t had such an event since the four March Nor'easters of 2018.

That’s why I prefer the college rules for OT, but having said that…I still think it’s MORE fair to go to the current rules after each team is guaranteed one possession, if the first team scores a TD, or go to sudden death after that process. Simply put, each team should have at least one offensive possession, no matter the procedure from there, in my own personal opinion.

Of course, on the flip side, the Bucs may still be alive if they hadn’t been way too aggressive (all out blitz) on that last play to set up the game winning FG for the Rams.

I’ve always preferred the way it’s done in college. I’m all for making it as fair as can be humanly possible.

I agree, unfortunately. Definitely think KC is the huge favorite to win it all. Felt that way all along, but I can’t stand them, personally. Never been an Andy Reid or Tyreek Hill fan.

Ironically, it’s been a horrible weekend for me, as well, watching each team I was rooting for lose on the final play of each respective game. Guess I’m going to pull for Cincy from here.

I deleted the post immediately, once I reread it. You replied with ninga skills before I did so. Lol

I agree, except I also prefer the way it’s done in college so that the team who wins the coin toss doesn’t keep having the advantage.

Like they say, “it prevents you from winning!” In that case, it almost always works. Btw, I’m a huge bills fan.

The truth is, far more often than not, we go from those modeled events to literally a completely non-event…in relation to the latest GFS run posted above. Not saying it’s impossible or isn’t meteorologically plausible, but simply very low probability; albeit no less fun to look at. It’s the things “wet dreams” are made of for the weather weenie, and sometimes, dreams do come true!

I completely understand why weather enthusiasts get so disappointed, and frustrated, when model trends move towards a less desirable solution. That said, I’d simply like to note that as good as computer modeling has become over the past few decades, they will never be able to 100% accurately account for all the complexities involved in the atmospheric processes that lead to such weather phenomena. With that in mind, It’s important to also remember that the significant strides we’ve made in weather forecasting over the past few decades has been the result of enhanced computer modeling…without which, forecasts would result in far greater errors.

Raleigh, NC Snowstorms (1887-1947): *6.0” or greater* 02/21/1889: 10.0” 12/27-28/1892: 9.5” 01/18-19/1893: 12.0” 02/17-18/1896: 7.0” 12/02-03/1896: 7.5” 01/28/1899: 7.5” 02/11-13/1899: 17.7” 02/15-17/1902: 17.9” 02/10-11/1912: 6.5” 02/14/1913: 6.0” 02/26/1914: 7.0” 12/12-13/1917: 7.1” 01/26-27/1921: 8.3” 01/26-28/1922: 9.5” 01/09-11/1927: 7.3” 03/02/1927: 17.8” 12/17/1930: 7.0” 01/13/1933: 10.0” 03/10/1934: 8.0” 12/29/1935: 6.2” 02/06-07/1936: 8.0” 12/28/1937: 6.0” 03/24/1940: 7.0” Source: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/climate?wfo=RAH

Here is a listing of all snowfalls (of at least 6”) measured at RDU…dating back to 1945: 12/09-10/2018: 8.9” 02/24-26/2015: 6.5” 12/25-26/2010: 7.1” 02/26-27/2004: 6.5” 01/02-03/2002: 10.8” 01/24-25/2000: 20.3” 02/17-18/1989: 6.2” 01/07-08/1988: 7.3” 02/06/1984: 6.9” 03/24/1983: 7.3” 01/13-14/1982: 6.0” 03/01-02/1980: 11.1” 02/18-19/1979: 10.4” 01/07-08/1973: 6.4” 03/01/1969: 9.3” 02/09/1967: 9.1” 01/25-27/1966: 9.7” 02/26/1963: 6.9” 03/02-03/1960: 7.1” 03/09/1960: 6.9” 12/11/1958: 9.1” 01/19/1955: 9.0” 01/31-02/01/1948: 9.0” 02/09-10/1948: 14.5” source: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/climate?wfo=RAH