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Fall/Winter Banter - Football, Basketball, Snowball?
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
Northern England is getting blitzed with heavy snow. They average around an inch a year in places that look to be getting 6-10. Maybe someday our unusually heavy snows will return. Those snow departure maps that were put out the other day were depressing, as our area had the biggest snowfall loss of any area. Ironically, areas along the gulf and deep south were actually getting more snow than they did in the 1960s-1980s. -
December 2023 Mid/Long Term Pattern Discussion: Let it Snow!
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
It only gave me 17-18 inches. Toss.- 548 replies
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I was hoping someone would make it. Got down to 34 overnight but WAA kicked in and it got up to 37 when the rain started.
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Wow. I was below freezing 20 days this month. I was 27 the 19th and 20th. Also in the 20s/30 the 13th-15th. Somehow the lowest low at TYS during that time frame was 38-40. Norris, Tri-Cities, Maynardville, Tazewell, Oneida, Jacksboro, Middlesboro, Corbin, Crossville, Pennington Gap, Newcomb all recorded temps in the 20s during these timeframes. For some reason, areas along 40 in East Tennessee were much warmer. No idea why. Newport, Morristown, Knoxville, Oak Ridge, Lenior City, reported no temps below around 36 for the most part.
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Ended up at 15 degrees this morning, it was 15 in Oneida too. It was 13 in Tazewell. Crazy that it was 26 at McGhee Tyson. Almost has to be getting a slight airport bump.
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After a quick look, 2013 is the only year since at least 1970 with no single digit lows. There were 3 others that had no single digit lows in Jan-March that ended up going into the singles or colder in December. 2013 the yearly low imby was 12.
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Truly cold out there, currently at 18 degrees. Coldest night since March 21st, when it was 14. March 20th and 21st were the coldest mornings of 2023. 13 and 14 respectively. Unless we really chill down in December, this may be one of the few calendar years of my life that didn't have a single digit low temperature in the entire 12 months.
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Looks like 1-2 have cooled to around +1 with a steady downward trend, while 3.4 has warmed to +1.7ish as of November 20th. Possibly setting up a Modoki Nino. That would favor more storms in the Gulf and generally, more tracks East of the Apps.
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Getting toward the final fall obs, and boy was today a chiller. 22 this morning. 37 for the high, already down to 28 with the sun down.
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December 2023 Mid/Long Term Pattern Discussion: Let it Snow!
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
The NAM did a good job sniffling it out here.- 548 replies
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December 2023 Mid/Long Term Pattern Discussion: Let it Snow!
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
It snow showered here late last night and there were a few flurries this morning. Cold this afternoon. Only 34 so far.- 548 replies
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Just had an 80 percent snow/20 percent rain shower move over.
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December 2023 Mid/Long Term Pattern Discussion: Let it Snow!
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
The GFS is insistent that the west coast will continue to replenish water supplies. 6-10+ inches of rain for the northern 2/3rds of California and there been various runs of up to 215 inches of snowfall over the next two weeks from Mammoth to Tahoe ski areas. Unfortunately for us, storms crashing into Northern California to Washington means we are going to remain warm like we did last winter while the west got buried.- 548 replies
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December 2023 Mid/Long Term Pattern Discussion: Let it Snow!
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
The PNA/NAO/AO look potentially favorable in early December. Eric Webber noted that December -NAO in strong Niño conditions often led to great patterns later in winter as well.- 548 replies
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Most of our long range looks are well into December now. Hopefully we can have a better winter than last year, which was an all-time worst here. The first week of the month looks to be near normal temp wise and probably drier than normal, even though CPC favors AN precip.
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Fall/Winter Banter - Football, Basketball, Snowball?
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
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Fall/Winter Banter - Football, Basketball, Snowball?
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
It's been around 40 with rain showers here this afternoon and evening. This would have been a snow shower kind of day a month from now. -
Fall/Winter Banter - Football, Basketball, Snowball?
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
The Purdue big is especially impossible when they refuse to call 3 seconds on him. He was staying in the lane for 7 or 8 seconds. Not to mention tossing Tennessee players around like ragdolls with no calls. -
Had about 1.55 total today. Steady moderate rain for the better part of 12 hours. Just what the forest floor was needing.
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Truly heavy rain the past hour. Had missed this at night.
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Fall/Winter Banter - Football, Basketball, Snowball?
John1122 replied to John1122's topic in Tennessee Valley
Good luck to her. Hopefully the positivity continues. We're all a family here it feels like and I know we all wish you guys the very best. -
1950/52 were the big ones in the area. My dad talked about snow over the bumpers of his car in 1952. We had 20 inches. Tri-Cities had close to 20 as did Knoxville. Chattanooga was rain though as was Nashville. The '52 storm was an epic paste job but much more localized to East Tennessee/SWVa than 1950. 1950 was a long duration event and it was much colder. It snowed over a foot across a large part of the state, 6-9 inches initially and then more snow for several days afterward with highs in the 10s and 20s and lows in the single digits to near 0. Tennessee and Kentucky played an infamously cold and snowy game that year. In '50, Memphis had 2 inches, 9.2 in Nashville, 2 inches in Huntsville Alabama with a high of 19 and low of 1 that far south. It was actually colder in Huntsville than it was in Tri-Cities for the low. Because it stayed cloudy and snowed every day for several days after in the Tri-Cities/Knoxville and Southeast Ky/SWVa/Mid-State. The crazy thing is that most years in the 50s/60s/70s had measurable snowfall in November. Snow of at least a trace happened every year in the 50's in November. Outside of '50/'52, 2 inches fell in 1956 and 3.5 in 1959. 1960 had none, '61, '62 had half inch events. ''63 had a 2.5 inch event. '66 had an 8 inch event and a 2 inch event. The 8 inch event was November 2nd. the 2 incher was at the end of the month. '68 had a 3 inch and 2 inch event. '69 had a 3 inch event. It was 1973 before a snowless November hit again. In 1974 there was a 2 inch event mid-month. 75/76/77 all had multi-inch events. 1978 was snow free. 1993/1994 was the only back to back snow free November years from 1940-1994 (we did get 3 inches on Halloween 1993 but it stopped snowing around 9pm.) And by that I mean snow of at least a dusting. Then the 2000s hit and November snow just went "poof". None form 2000-2005. 2006 we had half an inch. November has mostly been hard times since 2006.
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I posted that and it literally started pouring.
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There was a fire near me today. My cousin lost a van and outbuilding. The rural fire service and Forestry got it out before it could take off. It was on the edge of about 35000 acres of dry woods. The rain was almost non-existent.
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Hopefully the 00z GFS is correct. Way more rain next week than it had been showing and some snow showers for most of us.