powderfreak

Yeah I think most of NNE has declined in the past decade. I'm pretty sure Vermont has a slight downward trend in the past 10 years. The number of older folks dying (NNE is known to have a relatively high average age) and others moving away are not out-pacing those moving in on a year over year basis.

Agreed. Facebook especially has become a complete cesspool. It is 100% argumentative and abrasive. People used to share photos of their family and pets and fun stuff, now it is literally political 100% of the time and everyone is just shouting at each other. If we judge society by Facebook then we should just blow up this whole civilization thing and start over. News and comments sections are just absolutely brutal across the board. I've gone mostly to Instagram for now as you can still just look at stuff that is appealing to you without reading all negative stuff. It's so much more "up-lifting" to scroll through. Your advice is correct, just stay off FB and enjoy the summer.

Everyone can be outside too... I've never seen the hiking trails this busy and same with mtn biking and water spots. It's all good as that's what we should be doing.... getting outside recreation is healthy for numerous reasons. NNE summer is outdoor recreation on water, mountains, beach, etc. And the weather has cooperated.

Yeah, comfortable but still warm so you know it's summer. Temperature dropped fast too with the sun. 71/57 to 63/58 in one hour.... you know it's a Chamber quality air mass when it drops 8F at sunset and with very little movement in the dew point.

What an evening. Chamber of Commerce returned today. Air was finally cleared of the haze and visibility on our evening dog walk up Spruce Peak was the best in the past week it appeared. 71/57 down in the valley, it was a nice 63F at top of Spruce around 7pm.

No I don't either necessarily, just saying that one senior center hit in Vermont right now would really jack up the COVID rates in a state with such a low population.

The cases per 100,000 people ratio though can also get out of hand pretty quickly with “relatively” small outbreaks. One senior living center outbreak in VT could send it through the roof. But yeah, rural areas are going to have a lot less “touch” points for transmission.

Today's date back in 2013 was the best severe storm T-Storm I've ever seen locally. This was all around my place and within easy walking distance. Whiteout wind speeds with rain. The Mansfield summit was something like 60G80 in a very short period of time... only a 5-min ob, between light wind speeds. I bet we saw a solid 50-60mph... maybe a higher gust peak (?).... that does more damage to interior (non-coastal) full-foliage forests than most people think during the summer season. It doesn't have to be 80-100mph. Sorry for the pics, but strong storms are hard to come by.

Lots of those beetles here too Are these the big heavy guys throwing themselves against my screen doors at night going towards the light? Slow but heavy.

Vermont has had only 2 COVID related deaths since May 15th.... and is the only state in the Nation with 0 deaths in the past 30 days. The only two deaths in the past two months were on May 24th and June 15th.

Looks about the size of the one we have around. I still haven’t caught ours on camera and it bugs me, ha. He takes off into the woods pretty fast. Acts like a 2-4 year old adolescent male with a tough of spaz. Really curious about everything but doesn’t like to be seen, likes hiding in the woods.

You want to be up at airport height or where mreaves is. Montpelier itself is a bit of a low spot. I think MPV is about 400-500ft higher. Underhill is very snowy but it’s pretty sleepy. I don’t get the idea you want that vibe where everything closes early and you can’t walk anywhere. It’s really a bedroom community for Burlington... but it does get a lot of snow. The CoCoRAHS site’s there are real snowy.

The popular one locally from Ten Bends is Cream Puff War... that seems to be taking off and they are dangerous... go down really easily for the alcohol content, ha. If you see it I'd recommend it.

I love that you can get Ten Bends down there. I know the guys that started that real well... one was an accountant at a hotel I worked at at the time and he always had the dream of brewing beer. They started in his garage and the place they brew in Morrisville is still pretty small. Love good success stories like that where now you know the product down there.

Damn bear got our compost again last night. What a mess. I’m going to have to build a concrete frame that he can’t just dismantle when he wants to eat.

Yeah that would be a huge winter here. We had 150-160" here in the village between 2 sites in 2010-11. That seasonal snowfall map looked like a NW flow model prog when it was all done. 2000-01 would probably be at that level of 175" locally at this level, with over 400" in former ski area measurements. It's a huge season.

Same around here... town homes seem to be the big desire. A few have popped up locally in the past year after a dearth of development. Now we just got a notice for a selectboard hearing for a gravel/sand pit area that's oddly hidden pretty well near here in town along the river and Rec Path that they are looking to turn into 15 new townhouse units.

Yeah that sounds about right. In my head I sort of lump you guys in with up to Dryslot's area, as I bet Dryslot has more in common with ORH snowfall than he does with Vermont at the same latitude. The snowfall climatology in the northeast seems to run in SW to NE axis, mirroring the coastline. Like up here we often share storms that deliver NW of ALB, more than we do with say far N.NY or Massena despite the similar latitude. I know you know this, ha, just speaking out loud. The main point though is what you made, if one region really does well, the other normally does pretty good too. Relative to normal as a percentage, I still think SNE often gets the nod in those "good/great" winters. Like 120% snowfall up here is a huge winter and I bet when that happens, it's not uncommon for BOS/BDL/ORH to have at least 120% of normal, maybe more. That's probably a pretty poor metric though to compare, as standard deviations would be more useful. Maybe that's where I'm stuck at, looking at it as a percentage of normal snowfall... it's hard to beat the non-immediate coastal SNE stations in that metric during a good winter.

Ha, of course. That’s not what I meant with jackpots. I’m talking like I feel like in a slightly warmer regime we have less of a chance of getting 2-3” of sand while other folks get 18-24”. Not necessarily jackpots but just being even in the game in individual storms vs a season long slow build up. Sometimes you just want a good CCB dropping 1” QPF in 6 hours... I liked 2010-11.... that January while SNE was cleaning up we were at least doing 8-12’s in those storms. It does seem though like NNE gets above normal snows residually when SNE gets smoked, but it’s sort of like HubbDave “mehing” 2015’s 100+ inches at his place lol.

That’s an appropriate description, ha. Whenever you think winter is going bad, just let me break open the photos from 15-16 and you’ll suddenly feel all warm and fuzzy with only 4-6” on the ground.

Hahaha, making the rounds. Come and do snowmobile burnouts in our brown lawns as a thank you.

Yeah that's gotta be it. I've never been up there, but Jerry can have the entire forum up there for a winter getaway. Only $20,000/month payments! That is actually dirt cheap for that thing, ha. $3.5 million?! There's a listing from 2013 for $6.9 million.

Haha, yeah. Old timers hanging outside the ski bars... shaking their mugs like begging for coins. It truly is amazing for that spot to be so snowless. Especially the Christmas time period. We opened the summer zip line down from the top of the Gondola for Christmas break! That's one you tell the grandkids someday.

Welcome to Christmas in the NNE Mtns that year, Phin. Only time since 1954 without even a trace of snow at the Mansfield COOP. I honestly never thought it was possible to do before 2015. I mean, at 4000ft there isn't even ice bulges on the cliffs, nothing at all. Not even a drift. Just bare ground straight to the summits. It might as well have been mid-October. We'll never see anything like that again is my guess.

In the past 25 years at Stowe, there hasn’t been another winter within even 75” of that one. We got 154”. The next closest contestant in 25 years is like 2011-12 with 246”.