RitualOfTheTrout

To me any place other than my backyard is stupid, so if that means yours instead of mine then I'll be by with an industrial blow torch to melt the snow you stole from me. I'm joking by the way.... I think.

This is what I was getting at when I said the pattern didn't look great but it wasn't a complete shutout look. Should have 2 days of cold and snow in the air, and hopefully score an inch or so. As for being negative, I guess it's relative to ones expectations. I'll be happy just to see snow falling, hopefully get enough to cover the ground and take the kids around to look at lights with a wintry backdrop. If that's only a half inch so be it.

Seeing snow now as well. Can't hurt if its a bit sooner than expected. Not expecting much until later this afternoon though.

Yeah, this. Its all a nowcast situation, see if squalls setup and if so if your yard gets hit.

In my opinion the setup looks good for how we maximize a cold window in an otherwise unfavorable pattern. A shortwave dropping in behind the main storm after we already have a favorable NW flow off warm lakes is typically a way we can score a small event. If we maximize the setup potential squalls and briefly heavy snow not out of the question. Its a nowcast thing, but beats days of 40s and 50s right?

Still looks pretty changeable on the various ENS means, not saying it means snow but wall to wall torch no guarantee either heading towards next weekend. On an unrelated note, saw a stat 2023 is vying for second least snowy year on record at 12 inches.

We've always nickle and dime'ed our way to the averages-ish, with a bigger storm thrown in there every couple years (look at the frequency of 5+ 8+ 12+ storms in the records) so I agree not having those 1-3 / 2-4 clippers and NW flow LES setups has really made winters lately seems worse than they are from a bigger storm perspective. Beginning of December the mid to late month period looked much better than at least what it appears reality will bare. Still not a total shutout look, but also not out of the question we are way below average by Jan. If the good looks keep getting pushed back we will quickly find ourselves in a hope for one big storm winter again. Still not out of the question we have a second half turn around, but the clock is ticking.

At least there are plenty of darts being thrown, gotta think if that continues one will work out.

Both GFS and Euro show a secondary wave popping along the front, certainly worth keeping an eye on. As with anything timing is everything, but if the low deepens at our latitude after the front passes it could be fun. Pretty sure we had a storm do that a few years back on Christmas Eve.

So can I count that hail I got as a trace for frozen or...

Most of the long range forecasting (heck even short range) is above my pay grade, but I certainly don't hate the look currently advertised heading into mid December. At least right now, its not a shutout pattern, several chances of at least some snow on various ENS runs. Past that, nino climo would tend to favor increasing chances for winter weather heading into January and February. I'm at least cautiously optimistic for the winter as a whole at least hitting the average bar, with above average likelihood of some more frequent big storm tracking, whether we cash in of course tbd.

Getting under a pretty robust band right now, nice to see snow flying.

Starting to look like maybe a pretty solid cold shot around Thanksgiving. Put xmas lights up today in the beautiful weather. Fingers crossed that doesn't jinx the cold coming.

I like the house cool at night, but its been a bit of a challenge even with a box fan in the window to keep it 70-68 over night. I also like to see how long I can run without needing AC or Heat, got a decent streak going, but its looking like odds favor warmth next week.

Yeah, Im enjoying this. No heat or air needed as an added bonus. Not mad about nissing that tropical over the weekend either, but Id be crying in December at that cutoff.

Wonder what is showing up on PBZ radar? Pretty sure it's not raining. Some sort of malfunction?

At least the initial batch looks to stay south. Cloud cover from that convection probably also helps us out a bit, but not 100% sure we miss everything based on some short term models showing at least a few sporadic cells before the front comes through.

Yeah, these guys need to take this talk to a place thats appropriate for weather talk.

Yeah, The line is weakening pretty quickly now, that probably saved us from the worst winds, but rain and lightening show did not disappoint.

Pretty rare to be in enhanced risk area. Wouldn't mind seeing some boomers, but I hope we escape any major damage if the threat materializes.

Found tonights NWS discussion to be confusingly entertaining. .SHORT TERM /6 AM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT/... The surface trough will not swiftly pull away Friday as its fearless progression slows in an attempt to occlude and collocate under the upper low. If you are concerned about rainfall, we will take a moment to speak now on it: upper-level dry air reinforcement behind the cold/occluded front should limit high- QPF rainfall into the day. With showers only resulting from a reinforcing shot of cold air aloft overriding higher humidity surface conditions following diurnal temperature trends, our precipitation deficit will stay in the red. So far, we are 0.66 inches short of our mid-month average rainfall. While we will not have the driest June on record, we will certainly not match the record 10.29 inches the area received in June of 1989. Though the region has had a recent reputation of being dry, shower activity will persist in Pennsylvania and West Virginia through the afternoon, with the best shortwave- enforced ascent. If you are a dry weather lover, good news! Friday will not be a washout, with only isolated to scattered showers decreasing toward evening as the trough pulls away. This un-notable weather will not go down as folklore, with dry and typical conditions returning evermore (or at least until next week). There is moderate to high confidence in dry conditions late Friday evening through midnight for anyone who may happen to be outside for one reason or another. There is high confidence that the upper trough develops into a closed low over the weekend over the northeast. This will return north-northwesterly flow aloft, and stream down drier Canadian air. An approaching surface high will leave conditions pleasant over the weekend with mostly clear skies and seasonable temperatures.

Smoke is pretty intense for sure. Made for a really bright orange view of the sun. Almost looks like it's foggy out, but its smoke. Trying to get over a respiratory cold and I can definitely feel it making it harder to breath. Normally I don't notice anything different during these air quality alerts, so must be the combination of the two.

Its been absolutely gorgeous, but going to need some rain here pretty soon. Noticing some lawns are starting to get that late July / early August look with some brown spots showing up. I was wondering about the dew points, pretty low for the time of year for sure. That map of nearly 0 qpf for 384hr is pretty rare in and of itself especially added onto the streak we are already on.

Next 5-7 day period shaping up to be pretty lousy for sure. Would like to see this type of pattern setup in winter, periodic snow chances via ripples of energy rotating around that cutoff low taping into some lake enhancement.

Looks like worst of this is just NW of the city, in those stronger storms.