michsnowfreak

Snowing beautifully out and sticking to everything. Really curious to see what the higher we turns do when they get here

We started as light rain and sleet, now it is snowing.

Are you leaning snow?

For as mild as the Winter has been overall, this will likely be the 3rd storm to come with damage. There were several tree limbs and a few wires down after the January 25th snowstorm, tons of destruction after the February 22nd ice storm, and I can't imagine there NOT being issues with the weight of this snow in the hardest hit areas today. This is our 4th warning of the season Dec 22- Winter Storm Warning Jan 25- Winter Storm Warning Feb 22- Ice Storm Warning Mar 3- Winter Storm Warning

Still nervous about rain/sleet, but also excited. Could be some insane snowfall rates!

I don't think anyone sees a foot but could be good rates somewhere.

I'm telling you, don't let a mild Winter jade you so much. The stretch of sub par Decembers and Snowy Februaries are more than likely an unusual coincidence. After all, the region has seen an unusual number of early and late snowfalls in recent years as well. Chicago had a white Halloween a few years ago and Detroit had a white Mother's Day a few years ago. Also, days with snow on the ground has shown no longterm decrease. We can continue the conversation in PM if you'd like, but i don't want to derail this storm thread

2020-21 was not a very mild Winter here at all. Even in the mild Winters the past decade we've had some good cold storms. There's just been a lot of bad luck this year. Hell, even we all had an extremely cold snow fall in December this year. But sorry, it's absolutely ridiculous to say DTW will become the new CMH. Even if our Winters magically warmed 4 degrees, We are surrounded by the Great Lakes which Columbus is not. I mean climate change is real but the way one mild Winter with subpar snow jades people is really over the top. Dtw temp departures last 10 winters 2022-23: +5.0 2021-22: -0.4 2020-21: +0.3 2019-20: +4.2 2018-19: +0.5 2017-18: -1.1 2016-17: +4.5 2015-16: +5.1 2014-15: -5.1 2013-14: -7.5

No worries. Because because I'm not transitioning to a CMH climate. Lmao Detroit literally just had their snowiest decade on record in the 2010s. I do not go off the deep end because of one lousy Winter

The last few winters have been fine. Only this Winter has been crap. I would not call the winters of 2020-21 and 2021-22 ones with few meager opportunities. Hell, snow depths in February 2021 were 15" in Detroit, 18" in Toledo, and 21" in Chicago.

This line from dtx says it all "major boom or bust potential"

It's nice to see the consistency with the 00Z models

Not that this matters because I don't think I'll be able to build a time machine lol, but another plus for 2013-14 is that the following Winter had a big dog snowstorm and record cold. The winter of 1881-82 was an absolute furnace of snowless hell.

It would have been wonderful to experience 1880-81, but honestly from all aspects, not just total snowfall, 2013-14 was the dream Winter for this area. Absolutely perfect.

Oh yes it's definitely too early to give a grade. With the colder look heading in to March you have to like the chances that something is going to pop. Speaking of cold, regardless of which model wins this circus of solution For Friday, there really does not seem to be much cold air with it so I'm not feeling this one or thinking it's gonna be a January 25th redux.

Wow. That's definitely higher than my grade would be. Although, the photogenic nature of the January 22nd and January 25th snowstorms, the February 22nd ice storm, & a postcard White Christmas, it's definitely not in the dire straits some others on here appear to be.

Jan 25 was the only well modeled event I can recall locally this winter here. Some are still without power in Monroe County a week after their "Winter weather advisory" ice storm lol

As I said above, let beavis be beavis. As a reminder he didn't give 2013-14 an A if I recall.

Beautifully said. Same here. I'm the weather guy that everyone asks. And yes, the NWS can never win. What's even worse, even IF they get it right, you have people from the outskirts of the main forecast area who got either less or more than the heart of the area slapping on the criticism.

Seems like we say this every storm, but the lack of consensus getting closer to the event is ridiculous. How are the pros supposed to forecast this for John Q public who has no weather knowledge but will bash away if the forecast is wrong?

Amen!

Beavis can beavis all he wants. Most long-term posters here have long made it known what their preferences with weather are. Not sure why you brought me up, as my ideal Winter is relatively close to beavis's, I just hold actual expectations in check. I don't know any winter lover in the region who is not disappointed with how the Winter turned out. Sometimes it happens. Your ideal Winter is at the far other end of the spectrum from beavis lol.

Unfortunately it looks like Minneapolis did not keep records at the time, however at Detroit it is the 2nd snowiest winter on record with 93.6". It held the number one spot until the wonderfully epic Winter of 2013-14 dethroned it with 94.9". Also, the book "The Long Winter" by Laura Ingalls Wilder is a fascinating read, I don't give a damn if it is a children's book lol

There was a coating of sleet and a bit of glaze earlier but it's been mostly cold gross rain.

I rarely visit OT so I don't know the full scope of what happened, and I certainly don't condone the stuff Hoosier did as a person, but I will say I enjoyed his weather posts.