michsnowfreak

Went for a walk in a park before sunset and I have to admit I thought of @beavis1729 several times. With the biting cold air and snow crunching underfoot, It's the perfect Winter day (obviously meaning for a day that's not actually seeing snow fall lol). I love when everything's frozen.

You are NOTHING like beavis. For one thing you spend winters in Florida and don't like cold. Cold and snowcover are far more important to him than snowstorms, he is very similar to me. Oh and by the even tho theres been more than 2" of snow on the ground for 2 weeks, 2"+ depth plus some cold (i forget what) is the threshold for some sort of beavis winter day stat he concocted. So today is definitely a beavis approved day here.

I know it's controversial but I've heard the BSR looks good for a wintry and active late February into March for our region.

Very well said. I feel like I love snow as much or more than beavis. I just don't understand the expectations and the constant complaining. I took a beautiful Winter walk the other day and plan to take another one today. Maybe get out and enjoy Winter while it's here instead of worrying that a melt is around the corner. And yes, outside of Minneapolis I think everybody has complained about this Winter. Nobody's acting like it's good. We've done better here compared to a lot of others on the subforum but I have voiced over and over that it's not a great winter. I've also said on multiple occasions that this is the perfect winter for beavis to actually complain. But Beavis has been complaining about the same thing for years even when there's been good times. Chicago had 2 feet of snow on the ground just 2 years ago yet if you listened to him youd think they were snowless. I almost fell over when he even had a few complaints about 2014. Sometimes the mainstream media likes to make Chicago sound like Fargo, which is a little ridiculous. But likewise it seems as though beavis makes Chicago sound like Saint Louis which is equally ridiculous. I only hope the next time Chicago gets hit he actually goes out and enjoys Winter instead of staring at his computer to find the next torch and live in fear of it. Side note, the Christmas snowstorm was one of the most impactful 2 to 3" snowfalls I've ever seen here in terms of actual conditions. Kind of like the opposite of when you get a 6 or 7" snowfall in the Spring that only creates a layer of slush on the roads.

Shades of 2014 here

I used mine 3 times so far. Dec 23, Jan 22, Jan 25. Shoveled for the rest. The blower kept clogging on Jan 25 the snow was so dense/wet. Hoping for a good powder to play in.

Obviously this is an unusual extreme for them, but the nearly completely snowless winter up-and-down I 95 on the East Coast is a magnified example of their feast or famine climate.

Wind chill advisory in effect tonight

And mind you, being "satisfied" does not make something a good or great Winter. There have been definite good times the past several winters but the last great winter was 2017-18, and before that was 2014-15 and of course the grand poobah of all 2013-14. The last truly sucky Winter was 2011-12, but there have been subpar Winter since (2015-16, 2018-19). A lot of the other ones fit into the category of "satisfied", not good, not bad. Pic below from February 2021.

Xmacis, the best site out there for climate data

I'd rather have a snowy Nina March ala 2008

I like the cold. Now....the -30 wind chills while I was out shoveling Dec 23? No. I thought it would be fun but it was legit hard to breathe. But moderate cold I love and find invigorating. Took a winter walk yesterday. Snow wise the past 5 seasons have not sucked here, except 2018-19. They haven't been great, but haven't sucked. Maybe other parts of the subforum, but im sick of hearing that average to above average snow seasons "suck". The frustration of this snow season, especially to mid Jan, is what a sucky snow season is. Not not getting wall to wall snow 2017-18: 62.5" above 2018-19: 31.9" below 2019-20: 43.8" avg 2020-21: 47.0" slightly above 2021-22: 47.9" slightly above

Today was a rare clear day, went for a walk in the park through the crunchy snow to get some fresh brisk Winter air.

I think most still give a nod to 13-14, but then they revert to the 70s lol in the next breath lol. I wonder how it was in the 70s. Like, did people say "it doesn't snow like it did in the 50s" even tho the 50s were way warmer and way less snowy.

Oh, for sure last Winter was FAR better. I'm not a skier, but a friend of mine went to just the other day and said he had fun. I don't think there's any disagreement that this is just plain and simple not a good Winter overall. The trolling posts (even though by mostly one person) do get old though. Especially when last Winter was a good Winter for the cold lovers, and we are a few years removed from our snowiest decade on record.

Each winter is different so hard to say what grades would have been with an "average" February, but each of the last 2 winters finished slightly above average snowfall thanks in large part to Feb. I was a fan of the cold last winter, not just the snowy Feb. And in 2021, depth got to 15" in Feb. Even if the last half of this month gets active and snowy, looks like we won't be adding to the 20+ inch Feb club that had become the norm. Maybe March will be interesting. Just as we've been due for a dull February, we're due for a rockin March. I don't care as much about tracking, just give me results.

@Powerball special. Detroit skycover: Dec skycover- 9.2/10 Jan skycover- 9.2/10 55 cloudy days 6 partly cloudy days 1 clear day

As mentioned, Detroit tied for 6th warmest...but the snow ranked 60th snowiest out of 143 years.

DTW is measured just outside airport grounds in a location more suitable for snow measurement. I heard a lot of airports were doing this. Really, isn't that the best case scenario. You want accuracy.

Skiing and snowboarding hills are doing just fine in Southern Michigan as well. Yeah they make plenty of additional snow, but that's needed for a deep firm base. Really, Cromartie trolling us getting over the top. He doesn't even post about weather or snowstorms that are going on in his location, just talks about torching. Yes, winter is disappearing because we had a mild January. Can't remember the last time we had a cold Winter where the Great Lakes had above average ice cover. Wow. I looked, we haven't had a cold Winter with above average ice cover since...LAST WINTER!

For Detroit. With a mean temp of 33.5°, Jan 2023 will tie with 1890 & 1990 for 6th warmest jan on record. Technically, 2023 was a fraction colder than each of those, but rounded to a tenth of a degree it ties. It was 3.2° colder than the warmest Jan on record. Total snowfall of 11.7", while a few inches below the current Jan normal, is incredibly an inch ABOVE the longterm avg. Season to date snowfall is 19.2". Last Jan was 27th coldest on record, over 13° colder than this Jan.

I did not realize that Winter was just February 7-13. Funny it sure looks and feels like midwinter as we close out January. I'm glad you're back though. Was worried since you did not say a word when Milwaukee got an 8" snowstorm. Figured you forgot your password or something. After all that's what we're here for, right? To discuss weather

We literally had a cold January and February last year. There's a difference between weather & climate.

So odd to see clear skies lol

You've been quiet lately